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'Beneath You'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


shrift - Jan 19, 2004 7:40:02 am PST #3038 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dark Knight action under an assumed name here, and that would make me very, very happy

Well, Bruce does have a history of stealing Clark's women.

Too bad he doesn't have a canonical history of stealing Clark's Lexboyfriends.


tina f. - Jan 19, 2004 7:58:50 am PST #3039 of 10000

In Smallvillespoiler land - seems about 50% of people who care about such things are convinced the new kid, whose character's name is: Adam Knight, by the way, is actually Bruce Wayne. There are spoilers (he's signed up for six episodes this season ) that contradict this pretty directly. There has also been word from the writers that there will be no Bruce Wayne this season due to problems with the next Batman movie script blah blah blah. But they could just be misleading folks.

The biggest problem with the rest of this season, as far as spoilers go: not enough Lex and too much Pete.


Lyra Jane - Jan 19, 2004 8:06:23 am PST #3040 of 10000
Up with the sun

Hmmm. I wonder if the character was originally thought of as Bruce Wayne, but the plan was scrapped over problems witht he movie script. So he'll be not!Bruce.

Also, I don't see why the fact the character only appears in six episodes means he isn't Batman. They only have (wild-ass guess) 12 eps left in the season, right? Being in five of those is enough for a healthy arc.

And the problem is very very distressing.


shrift - Jan 19, 2004 8:20:07 am PST #3041 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Apropos of nothing, I do not get the appeal of genderswap stories where Lex is turned into a girl, like, from birth. I mean, the hilarity of getting dropped into a body of the opposite sex is something I enjoy (dude, Farscape?), but...

Lex and his dillo: two great tastes that taste great together.


Lyra Jane - Jan 19, 2004 8:52:13 am PST #3042 of 10000
Up with the sun

I do not get the appeal of genderswap stories where Lex is turned into a girl, like, from birth

I have not read enough Smallville fic to encounter such a monstrosity, but that sounds like those Buffy/Angel fics where Angel isn't a vampire. Dood, that's the point.


§ ita § - Jan 19, 2004 8:54:07 am PST #3043 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like it when they mess *everything* up, if they construct useful parallels, keeping the spirit/metaphor I enjoy alive.

Well, I like it in principle. I don't think I ever finished one of the stories. I wander away muttering "That could work, no that's interesting."


tina f. - Jan 19, 2004 8:54:14 am PST #3044 of 10000

LJ, I might have phrased that bit unclearly. It's not the fact that the could-be Bruce Wayne character is only signed up for 6 eps that has people thinking he is not Bruce it is other spoilers about his character. Mainly one that states he is taking some kind of serum injections to keep himself alive. Which points to possible mutant-ness and general non-Batman-ness.


shrift - Jan 19, 2004 9:03:53 am PST #3045 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I have not read enough Smallville fic to encounter such a monstrosity, but that sounds like those Buffy/Angel fics where Angel isn't a vampire.

Heh. Well, I'm completely okay with reading stories where they go totally AU and toss the characters into a different milieu. I can handle Clark as a rentboy, Lex as a farmboy, or Lana as an interesting person, but the moment anyone takes Lex's cock away, I am consumed with uncomfortableness.

Apparently, this is where I draw the line that should not be crossed. "Thou shalt not give Lex an innie when he has such a nice outie."

I like it when they mess *everything* up, if they construct useful parallels, keeping the spirit/metaphor I enjoy alive.

Yes, this. Only, it doesn't happen often enough.


Lyra Jane - Jan 19, 2004 9:10:23 am PST #3046 of 10000
Up with the sun

Thanks, Tina. That makes more sense.

I wander away muttering "That could work, no that's interesting."

That's about my reaction too.

I don't think all AUs are inherently bad, or anything. But things like genderswapping from birth, or making a nonhuman character human, rarely actually lead to interesting stories.


Madrigal Costello - Jan 19, 2004 9:22:00 am PST #3047 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I think if they get the essence of the character right, that sort of drastic change can work - but it's hard, because those major traits are often necessary to make them what they are. Though I could buy a comedy of a Clark dropped into an AU where Lex is a woman having to deal with the surprise that he's quite disappointed with the switch.