either have the balls to go all the way, or don't bother.
That is my dissatisfaction with the series and what they did with it right there in a nutshell.
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Sean K - Sep 10, 2003 9:07:52 am PDT #212 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Dana - Sep 10, 2003 9:08:39 am PDT #213 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Also -- the Bashur you guys are talking about is he the one that was mentioned (here or lj?) as being the Algerian terrorist on MI-5 last night?
Yes. AKA Alexander Siddig AKA Siddig El Fadil.
shrift - Sep 10, 2003 9:09:35 am PDT #214 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Also, the lead reminds me of Shrift a little bit. <hides under desk>
Having never seen DLM, I have no urge to go HULK SMASH on you.
Heh.
And why didn't they have early 19th-Century Methos more often?
Wrod. What Dana said about the floppy hair and the threesomes.
askye - Sep 10, 2003 9:12:41 am PDT #215 of 10000
Thrive to spite them
Oh, yeah, back when TNG was recycling all of TOS's plots. Except I'm sure they didn't calling it recycling and called it something like homaging.
I'm fuzzy on the details but I'm pretty sure Riker didn't act any differently than he did through out the rest of the series---play his trombone ('cause did you know Jonathan Frakes can play the trombone?) and try to get in the sack with all the women.
My whole (extended family) thought I was nuts for like Star Trek--well they thougt I was odd anyway, but more nuts for liking Star Trek---so I was at my grandparents house and finally convinced them to watch one episode to show that it wasn't some stupid ass sci fi show.
So they agreed and I turn on the tv and find TNG and I notice that it looks kind of like a rerun, but not really. And oh wait there's Riker trying to get busy with an alien and another alien and...
it was the clip show episode where Riker contracted some virus and was dying and so they flooded his brain with something so he'd remember all his happy sexy memories and then decided he needed all his bad horrible memories to live.
I just stood there hands over my face saying "this isn't what it's like, not really, I promise it's really good." No one believed me.
I think this is when my irrational Riker hate started.
Sean K - Sep 10, 2003 9:17:01 am PDT #216 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I think this is when my irrational Riker hate started.
I don't have any of it any more, but I suspect you would have really liked my court martial of Riker for the destruction of the Enterprise D in Generations.
The destruction of the D was unnecessry, avoidable, and (I felt) directly attributable to Riker's incompetence and willfully bad tactics.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Sep 10, 2003 9:17:37 am PDT #217 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
Bashir could still have ended up with his twu wuv - Garek.
Well, yeah. That would have been for the best.
He really was all about the man-crushes, wasn't he?
And you realise why I like him...
some of us are under the sway of the subversive lure of Michael Rosenbaum, rather than the hypnotic glare of Tom Welling's orthodontic work.
Emily, that's wonderfully put. And quite true.
Early 19th-Century Methos had adorable floppy hair. Early 19th-Century Methos entertained the idea of threesomes.
And, without knowing anything else about him or the show, I become a fan.
Emily - Sep 10, 2003 9:22:05 am PDT #218 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
What Dana said about the floppy hair and the threesomes.
I don't even know what Dana did say, but I'm sure I agree with it. Could I tag this?
askye - Sep 10, 2003 9:24:33 am PDT #219 of 10000
Thrive to spite them
Sean--I would have loved to have seen your court martial.
I don't go out of my way to hate Riker. I don't make little I hate Riker icon or buttons or websites. No dierikerdie@hotmail.com email addresses or whatever.
I also thought the Two-Two-Two Rikers in One! Storyline was kind of stupid. I didn't get how he was supposed to survive down there for a long time, it didn't seem to me like there was a really good food source. Plus it just seemed like a way to give Troi more conflict and she needed less personal conflict and more actual professional work to do on the bridge.
P.M. Marc - Sep 10, 2003 9:29:22 am PDT #220 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
happy phantom, some of us are under the sway of the subversive lure of Michael Rosenbaum, rather than the hypnotic glare of Tom Welling's orthodontic work.
(Looks up at Sorority Boys poster)
Yes, this.
Dana - Sep 10, 2003 9:32:22 am PDT #221 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
I don't even know what Dana did say, but I'm sure I agree with it.
Methos! I was talking about Methos!
It's sort of a defense.