Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.

Lorne ,'Why We Fight'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 9:16:46 am PST #1661 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

There's a bit of similarity - and the idea that there's only so much a human can do to alter what Fate wants. That, or both writers had strong opinions in the nature vs. nurture debate.


DavidS - Oct 31, 2003 9:21:31 am PST #1662 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of the premises of Fritz Leiber's Changewar series (which was exactly about two opposing groups that went back in history and fucked with the timeline to eradicate the other) was that forces of history were difficult to divert. Everybody should read The Big Time and somebody should make it into a play too.


Jessica - Oct 31, 2003 9:22:49 am PST #1663 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

To Say Nothing of the Dog comes to the same conclusion.


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 9:25:12 am PST #1664 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

Connie Willis's "Doomsday Book" also seems to have a similar theme.


Jessica - Oct 31, 2003 9:33:53 am PST #1665 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well, they are set in the same universe.


meara - Oct 31, 2003 9:36:31 am PST #1666 of 10000

I loved Domesday Book, but wished someone had warned me before I started reading it how FUCKING DEPRESSING it was. I had no idea, and couldn't put it down, and was all sniffly, and it was NOT what I needed right then...


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 9:38:14 am PST #1667 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I thought the warning was not to read "Doomsday" when ill.


JohnSweden - Oct 31, 2003 9:51:09 am PST #1668 of 10000
I can't even.

I like Connie Willis, Lincoln's Dreams blew me away, but Doomsday Boke bugged. Like calling it Domesday Boke, then setting it in the 14th C. She did an amazing job evoking the time, and I really liked that, then the rest of the book just kind of unravelled for me. I realize tons of people loved it, but it just didn't work for me, in the end. It's weird because that book should have just jazzed me to the moon, but it ... didn't. I like all her stuff and I want to rave about that book, and couldn't.


Theodosia - Oct 31, 2003 9:56:11 am PST #1669 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It is my understanding that Fritz Leiber did actually originate "The Big Time" as a play.


DavidS - Oct 31, 2003 10:08:33 am PST #1670 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It is my understanding that Fritz Leiber did actually originate "The Big Time" as a play.

Googling around it seems that it was produced at the Babcock Theater in Salt Lake City back in 1982.