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Gunn ,'Underneath'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 7:20:57 am PST #1640 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

It did strike me as a lot like "Run, Lola, Run" - though what bugged me was that she was just delaying long-term problems. They did show that her sister was fully capable of finding other sources of drugs, and helping her brother win a game isn't going to get him to stop gambling - if anything she reinforced it. With the Rebecca plot line, I wanted it to be that every time Tru tried to "fix" something, remove a cause of death, fate tossed another one in until they got to suicide - and any ME worth his latex could quickly tell an entrance wound from an exit wound, especially at such a close range. And one pep talk - that's only enough on a family sitcom. If Tru had hauled Rebecca's ass into the hospital, said she'd tried to kill herself and got her held there until she could get counseling, then I might have thought of her as actually helpful.


Gandalfe - Oct 31, 2003 7:23:11 am PST #1641 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

any ME worth his latex could quickly tell an entrance wound from an exit wound, especially at such a close range.

But the ME never saw the wound, only had it described to him by her.


JohnSweden - Oct 31, 2003 7:27:48 am PST #1642 of 10000
I can't even.

any ME worth his latex

Y'know, I jumped to Mutant Enemy (writer), not CSI-like stuff, then it went all downhill from there.


P.M. Marc - Oct 31, 2003 7:37:48 am PST #1643 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You know, I just couldn't watch it. I couldn't. Eliza running? I have Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I can just skip to her parts.

I watched S2 Coupling instead.


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 8:11:20 am PST #1644 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I thought they had a shot of him looking at an X-Ray, and he pointed to the mouth on it to show Tru where he thought the bullet had entered. Plus the angle of the shot looked strange for having come from a gun in the mouth - even a gun that small. Oh, and examing the mouth is one of the first things done, right along with looking over the body for bruises, other injuries, etc. I was thinking they might play with the idea of distance of the shot - that maybe it wasn't such a small gun, but that someone had shot her from another building.


Jessica - Oct 31, 2003 8:13:35 am PST #1645 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I thought they had a shot of him looking at an X-Ray, and he pointed to the mouth on it to show Tru where he thought the bullet had entered.

No, that was just a diagram he'd worked up. He couldn't have been looking at an x-ray, because she hadn't died yet.


§ ita § - Oct 31, 2003 8:15:24 am PST #1646 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We didn't get to see any professionals looking at the body, right? Just Tru and the guy that wheeled her in?


Emily - Oct 31, 2003 8:16:14 am PST #1647 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I like the bits with ED running. And copping attitude at people. I like the kernel of characterization she's got going. And I actually sort of liked that she didn't spend the whole time hovering at her brother's side, trying to convince him of something crazy, just found the one thing that would actually work. Mind you, not long-run helpful, but neither (as we saw) was dumping her sister's stuff. It appealed to me because she gave the impression of a person who knows good and well she can't change the people she loves, and investing in it every time they fall will only break her heart more often, but who tries to do what she can when she can.

At least I thought that's what they were trying to do. And I kind of like the Mom backstory (okay, not so much the part she told DanceTeacherWoman, but the hearing voices part). A quibble, though: what's up with the boyfriend? Was he just there so we'd get confirmation as soon as she woke up that the day was repeating? Especially if next week's preview was as it appeared to be... why was EthicsViolationInstructor even there?

(ETA: And I thought only suspicious deaths went there. Why the cancer thing?)


Madrigal Costello - Oct 31, 2003 8:17:17 am PST #1648 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I guess this show is supposed to work entirely by keeping the audience confused. For a few moments, I thought she had some sort of cell-phone hook-up that let her call people on the first run of the day, however many hours into the future.

And another thing - evidently only murder or suicide counts as "before your time" - why not send Tru back to save the woman with cancer - maybe get her to see doctor before the disease progresses too far, or go way back and have her eliminate risk factors. Oh, but wait, that wouldn't involve tons of running in a low-cut shirt to solve.


Emily - Oct 31, 2003 8:19:03 am PST #1649 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Madrigal, you can't think like that. If you do, you end up wondering why the hell Sam Beckett wasn't sent back to kill Hitler, or hey, what makes this person's miserable experience so much more wrong than any other?

(Edit: As I do. And let me tell you, it's brought only heartbreak to me and a space-borne beagle to Sam.)