Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


DavidS - Apr 21, 2003 10:58:00 pm PDT #901 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec, you know, you can be punished too. In fact, I'm putting you on my list. So there.

Pfft. You've got three kids. By the time you remember to put my name on the list you'll have forgotten why. I'll probably go on the "Send Cookies" list.


billytea - Apr 21, 2003 11:00:49 pm PDT #902 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Dude! Just two posts (excepting the last two)! I'm out of the Gang of 14! In your face Jasper Johns!

Heh. I've dropped out completely. Not a single post in Bureaucracy 2.

...Ah. Bugger.


Trudy Booth - Apr 21, 2003 11:08:52 pm PDT #903 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Which speaks well to the process of crafting a proposal, or maybe we aren't as many different types of wrong-headed crackpots as we'd thought.

Well, it's also a matter of no alternative. We need a fix and put out a vote on "A" as the proposed fix.

Additionally, a lot of people who are ok with the way things are just don't participate in the votes.


Deena - Apr 21, 2003 11:11:42 pm PDT #904 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Crap. Hec has me figured out. I'm ALWAYS confusing my "punish" list with my "send cookies" list!


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2003 11:12:03 pm PDT #905 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, it's also a matter of no alternative. We need a fix and put out a vote on "A" as the proposed fix.

No alternative? The people who voted against each proposal certainly thought there was an alternative. Just not enough people wanted one.


billytea - Apr 21, 2003 11:14:35 pm PDT #906 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Crap. Hec has me figured out. I'm ALWAYS confusing my "punish" list with my "send cookies" list!

Whereas my aunt merely extracted remarkable synergies from the two.


Burrell - Apr 21, 2003 11:14:44 pm PDT #907 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Additionally, a lot of people who are ok with the way things are just don't participate in the votes.

Really? That logic makes no sense to me. If someone likes things the way they are now, I would think that he/she would want it to stay the same, and so he/she would vote against any proposal to change it. Certainly that is the logic that has driven me every time I have voted against a proposal.


Trudy Booth - Apr 21, 2003 11:16:41 pm PDT #908 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

No, the people who voted against weren't proporting an alternative.

If I had drawn up a "I think it should be 20 people" and people voted for one or the other that would have been an alternative. By the time I got here from Bureau the ballot was set how it was going to be.


DCJensen - Apr 21, 2003 11:17:30 pm PDT #909 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

A lot of people don't vote because they are too preoccupied with other things in their life and don't feel like voting, and by the time they do seek it out, the voting is usually over, so they give up and don't even try anymore.

IJS.


Trudy Booth - Apr 21, 2003 11:21:42 pm PDT #910 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Really? That logic makes no sense to me. If someone likes things the way they are now, I would think that he/she would want it to stay the same, and so he/she would vote against any proposal to change it. Certainly that is the logic that has driven me every time I have voted against a proposal.

What Daniel said.

Also, a lot of people ignore the voting entirely since the whole "voting" phenomenon seems to have been tsuris from the beginning.

I'm just saying that plenty of folks tuned out back during the heady days of the prefferential voting debate.

The consistent passing of the proposals could well indicate that it's a like-minded group crafting (and voting on) them, not that they are particularly well crafted or loved.