I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Consuela - Apr 01, 2004 12:58:39 pm PST #8892 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Thank you, Rafmun, for not asking for a formal warning.

Thank you, too, Shawn.

Good on ya both. (Please note: I'm absolutely sincere here, if the words chosen do not adequately convey my tone.)

And I'm not going anywhere near the huge can o' worms the Empress just opened...


Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 12:58:47 pm PST #8893 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sorry to upset you Hec.

But to defend my seconding, not that I should have to, I would say that this heated discussion started in part because of fallout from an extended political discussion in a thread that really didn't need, nor should have really had, a political discussion.

It may get voted down, it may start even more heated discussion (though not in this thread, I would point out), but then it may not get a fourth second - it didn't before, if I remember correctly...


juliana - Apr 01, 2004 1:00:25 pm PST #8894 of 10005
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Where do the local 'istas lists live? Is there a Chicago/Midwest one? What is involved in creating/maintaing one?

aurelia, I don't think there is. If there was, Gus had it. But I do vaguely remember him asking for addresses in Natter....

I dunno. My 'net time looks like it will be curtailed pretty severely, so I'll gladly be on it, but I can't promise swift response.


Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 1:00:55 pm PST #8895 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

However, on the "maybe this isn't the best time for this" side of the discussion, I think ita would again point out that the reason for our little move to our current host was to solve code problems we still haven't solved, and until we do, new threads are not necessarily a good idea.

Just putting that out there.


Rafmun - Apr 01, 2004 1:01:04 pm PST #8896 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?

I'm sorry, but this way convoluted.

msbelle - sincere thanks for taking time and trying to help on this. Others who spoke up when they saw direct nastyness - thanks too.


Susan W. - Apr 01, 2004 1:02:08 pm PST #8897 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Also seconding Aimee's proposal...


Sean K - Apr 01, 2004 1:02:49 pm PST #8898 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That's four.


Aims - Apr 01, 2004 1:03:02 pm PST #8899 of 10005
Shit's all sorts of different now.

A few people said they would second it if it was proposed. I proposed it. If it doesn't get the seconds it needs, so be it. I am not personally attched to the idea.


Katie M - Apr 01, 2004 1:04:18 pm PST #8900 of 10005
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Is four the requirement for opening up the discussion thread, Sean? I can't remember. (Actually, my brain is saying "seven," but God knows why.)


DavidS - Apr 01, 2004 1:05:14 pm PST #8901 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay, here's my opinion on a politics/war thread, recapping McHundreds of previous posts.

It's a bad idea because concentrating the heated debate spills out to the other threads and causes more splits and divisions. Instead of ghettoizing the negative vibes, it will amplify them.

It's a bad idea because it drains interesting discussion out of Natter.

It's a bad idea because we shouldn't be adding new threads right now until all our coding issues are done.

I don't need to discuss it further. I'll wait until the vote rolls around.