Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Michele T. - Mar 31, 2004 9:04:23 am PST #8581 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Oh I forgot to mention the other thing I noticed. Things seemed to be particularly bad in Bureaucracy last year mid-to-late March through early-to-mid April.

Hah. On Echo, it's axiomatic that some huge fight will erupt in February. I think it's got to be a change of seasons thing.


billytea - Mar 31, 2004 9:09:41 am PST #8582 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Hah. On Echo, it's axiomatic that some huge fight will erupt in February. I think it's got to be a change of seasons thing.

The gods of rancour apparently hibernate over the winter. Alternatively, February-April is the season of my sibling's birthdays, so it surprises me little that conflict, anger and despair has since been woven into the fabric of things at that time of year.


Fred Pete - Mar 31, 2004 9:16:53 am PST #8583 of 10005
Ann, that's a ferret.

Jon, Matt --

Just saw your posts after getting back from a late lunch. I recognize that we have policing -- starting with the informal, followed by group consensus on going further. I just saw in Matt's original post a cautionary tale that "anything goes" (not that we have it, or that I see us likely to go in that direction) can have consequences.


Nutty - Mar 31, 2004 9:19:17 am PST #8584 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

You know, the more I think about it the more I think that, in a text environment, people exist only inasmuch as they post. (This is thunderingly obvious to everyone else, I'm sure.) The reason why "the lurkers support me in email" is a joke is that lurkers are not people, not as far as the board is concerned. They don't post; they're not part of public discourse; they -- bluntly -- don't matter. They're as useless a concept as Nixon's "silent majority".

So...? I guess what I am saying is that, if you want to be heard, you must speak. I'm pleased that so many people have come out in the past day or so to say "I'm intimidated", because now we know that people are intimidated and maybe we'll all take that into consideration, consciously or unconsciously. But if you can't bear to say publically, "Hey, I'm intimidated", then as far as the board is concerned, it isn't so. Until you say it and make it so.

While adhering to the resolution to say your feelings without stepping on anyone else's feelings, which is the big mistake I think Rafmun was making all of yesterday. It's hard to listen to a plea to be more sensitive from someone who does not seem act sensitively at all!

Also, I realized in the course of the discussion that there is no public link to the Cheese Butt Book of Buffista Lawspeak anywhere. I compiled it, with assists from Sophia and Deena, and everyone seemed to like it, but it never got anything like ratified or formally accepted or put in an easy-to-find place on the site. It needs updating now, but once updated, what would you all like to do with it? I think it would be useful to have a formalized history of what we've decided on some of the major rules, not least to short-circuit the tendency towards confused summary in the middle of a het-up debate. But you know, I am also the one what wrote it, so of course I want you all to love it and call it George.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 31, 2004 9:20:17 am PST #8585 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When you're having a shitty time, board friction is highlighted and can add to your stress.

Or sometimes just the opposite. When things are bad, it might put perspective on getting into a kerfuffle on line, whereas when things are good I don't want anyone raining on my parade. I've seen it go both ways for me.

Hah. On Echo, it's axiomatic that some huge fight will erupt in February. I think it's got to be a change of seasons thing.

Or for some of us, the fact that winter. Just. Won't. End. And I generally like Winter (though Fall is my favorite).


DavidS - Mar 31, 2004 9:22:56 am PST #8586 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It needs updating now, but once updated, what would you all like to do with it? I think it would be useful to have a formalized history of what we've decided on some of the major rules, not least to short-circuit the tendency towards confused summary in the middle of a het-up debate.

I want to read it and have it handy.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 31, 2004 9:24:23 am PST #8587 of 10005
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Send your winter down to Arkansas. The AC on my side of the building is broken, and Monday night I was considering moving rocks into my office and pouring water over them.


Fred Pete - Mar 31, 2004 9:26:11 am PST #8588 of 10005
Ann, that's a ferret.

We'll take 10 degrees in DC!

15, if you can spare them.


Micole - Mar 31, 2004 9:26:59 am PST #8589 of 10005
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I was thinking tax season more than weather. For USans, anyway.


Allyson - Mar 31, 2004 9:30:57 am PST #8590 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Old school Bronze article

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