Dawn ,'Beneath You'
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Tone in conveyed in the words. There is nowhere else for it to come from. Some writers may convey it badly, some readers may misinterpret it, but it's not like someone's say, "OK, I'm going to read the next post as insincere, the one after it as somewhat sarcastic, and the one after that as snarky."
Okay, fortget adding tone. How about misinterpreting tone? (and, actually, I often feel that the 'tone' comes more from the headspace of the person reading than from anything the writer intended)
I read frustration in your tone, Jess.
You fucking asshole, how dare you!
[eta: Really going to bed now, as it's incredibly late on this coast.]
You fucking asshole, how dare you!
Can you clarify that?
What Nutty Said. With perhaps an exception from all the grooming. Gross.
I think I was explaining ita's social capital...is his comparison still offensive? Sounded right the way he put it. Man, talk about blind leading the blind here.
Can you clarify that?
No, because I'm not really here. I've turned off the computer and gone to bed at a reasonable hour.
Also, FWIW, a classic aphorism oft quoted to me is: a gentleman (one assumes also a lady) never gives offense unintentionally. Clearly, I am not a lady, but I do strive to be one more often than not.
That is, you (i.e. everyone) are responsible for how you come across. Always, even if people misconstrue what you mean. Especially if people misconstrue what you mean, because if reasonable people don't get your meaning, then you're not being as clear as you think you are.
That's just a rule of life, not of the internet. It just takes more work on the internet.
Okay, change of subject. Show of hands. How many people here hate Eskimoes? :p
Shawn, about the poster being responsible for the reaction of others to their posts. Yes, I get that there is a responsibility. My objection is to the person who misinterprets wildly (for which you exempted the poster) and then shits all over the hapless poster, who is fairly likely to get defensive, and then the shit really starts flying, when a single 'is this what you meant' would have nipped it all in the bud.
I'm not messing with ya, Elena, I remember trying to make it clear that I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings in a rather cold post I made regarding deathmatches, not long ago. Because I was trying to convey a cold tone toward the deathmatches (because I have no feelings on them), but not the person behind them (because I feel warmly toward you), or your wishes regarding Press.
I'm still not seeing how there's an "adding" of tone. Tone in conveyed in the words. There is nowhere else for it to come from. Some writers may convey it badly, some readers may misinterpret it, but it's not like someone's say, "OK, I'm going to read the next post as insincere, the one after it as somewhat sarcastic, and the one after that as snarky."
t embarrassed Oops.