Bless the activists. For without them, there would be no Phoenix. Activists make it possible for the other 99% to have a board.
No, that would be the programmers. And not every one of them is interested in running the place.
Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.
'Out Of Gas'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Trudy Booth - Mar 30, 2004 7:58:46 am PST #7927 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Allyson - Mar 30, 2004 8:00:44 am PST #7928 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
No, that would be the programmers.
I'm not talking just about code there Trudy. Jesse handles the money, and that's a very active part of making the board work, as one example.
Sean K - Mar 30, 2004 8:01:04 am PST #7929 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Am I on crack?
More importantly, are you on the good crack, and did you bring enough to share?
Lyra Jane - Mar 30, 2004 8:03:55 am PST #7930 of 10005
Up with the sun
No, that would be the programmers.The programmers make the physical (odd word, that) structure of the board exist and work, so the rest of us don't have to think about it. Without them, we would be on WorldCrossing or something else vastly inferior.
The activists keep the social gears grinding away. Without them, we might well have had more infighting and flame wars and skullduggery of all sorts.
The programmers make us work; the activists help keep us a community. We need both. It's an "if we build it, will they come?" problem.
Trudy Booth - Mar 30, 2004 8:04:14 am PST #7931 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Fine, the programmers and our illustrious (and I'm not kididng there at all) treasurer.
They aren't the "Activists" Numfar is talking about. THEY are the reason the board is here.
Wolfram - Mar 30, 2004 8:04:14 am PST #7932 of 10005
Visilurking
Sorry Laistas, only DC's got the good crack.
DavidS - Mar 30, 2004 8:05:15 am PST #7933 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
No, that would be the programmers. And not every one of them is interested in running the place.
The programmers created the software - but the community, and its rules were the creation of people who bothered to do the work in the right hand threads. Also, way back in WX, the community had a lot of input into what the programmers executed. The design and layout, the quick loading, the text emphasis - all came out of our old bullshit consensus. As Allyson noted, the people who cared about it the most were willing to wade through the often hot debates about voting and majorities, disciplinary issues and thread proliferation.
If you don't want to do that work, you really can't write it off as being "softspoken."
Trudy Booth - Mar 30, 2004 8:08:20 am PST #7934 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
We have lost good, active, people because this board is not as comfortable as it once was. It's more confrontational, we have to vent every little damn thing, "scroll by" and "let it slide" seem to happen less and less.
Cashmere - Mar 30, 2004 8:08:26 am PST #7935 of 10005
Now tagless for your comfort.
You know what, there ARE people who are more softspoken and there is nothing wrong with trying to take their wishes into account.
There's soft spoken and then there's unspoken. I only have myself to blame if I don't speak up on an issue I feel strongly about. I know that consequences of that. I'm comfortable with it.
For the most part, I feel my feelings get stated here by like-minded buffistas without my having to add to the posts (and hence a feeling of "piling on"). I don't feel like there's a junta directing policies which I have no say in. Unless there's gingham involved.
Lyra Jane - Mar 30, 2004 8:09:05 am PST #7936 of 10005
Up with the sun
Hec, thanks. You said that better than I did.