Steph's a BIG slut.

You betcha, baby. It was all planned on my part.

I'll just point out, again, that I don't think it was a shot (so if it was, you need to try harder (which is a joke)).

I, however, think that I am eminently clear.

Yes. And so do I think that I am eminently clear. That doesn't make it any easier for, say, PMM to understand my meaning without asking for more clarification.

Though at this point I'm no longer sure if we're even discussing the same point.

You betcha, baby. It was all planned on my part.

Race ya to 8's.

I'm going to make a bold (and possible flamibaity - but not meaning to) suggestion.

For over a year, off and on, we have had this discussion ad nauseum. And the same people say the same things in regards to newbies/smackdowns/etc.

Some of us will be always think "Sink or swim", some of us will give the benefit of the doubt, some of us will err on the side of caution and patience. All are wonderful and representative of the diversity in our personalities and our beliefs, which is one of the things that we can all agree that we love about this place.

There will be newbies who jump in and make the place their own and are welcome, there will be some who stutter about and then are fine and stay. There will always be people that don't belong and find out quickly and go. I'm not saying beej was the latter. I really have no opinion on where she fell or didn't.

My suggestion is this: This is a subject that will NEVER EVER EVER have a solution. There are too many of us for any type of behavior modification. Stepford Buffistas does not sound appealing.

Can this be dropped now?

I don't think this discussion is necessarily going to be resolved with a need for any particular action (though I do think guacamole is a useful notion in the FAQ).

But it does feed into the Buffista tendency to talk everything over until everything has been said three or more times.

Which has its flaws, what with boring people and preventing quick action, but it does prevent us from going off half-cocked.

Which has its flaws, what with boring people and preventing quick action, but it does prevent us from going off half-cocked.

This is true. Buffistas are always fully-cocked.

Perhaps this should be our slogan.

I'm gonna address the second part first....

Though at this point I'm no longer sure if we're even discussing the same point.

Possibly not. It started with tone, I know that much. From there, it may have darted off track.

That doesn't make it any easier for, say, PMM to understand my meaning without asking for more clarification.

True dat. I just tend to see the ridiculous side of things, where everyone has to ask for clarification on every post.

Yes, that was a shot at every. single. Buffista.

No, not really.

And finally -- I agree with Aimee (even though I just *had* to get this last post in).

Buffistas are always fully-cocked.

Sometimes double or triple-cocked.

Buffistas are always fully-cocked.

Elena beat me to it.

I would add that while fully-cocked, we are often only half-baked.