And yet no one considered the feelings of the anti-Thunderdome contingent.

They don't need another hero.

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, The culture here has always been to err on the side of not offending anyone. No one (to my knowledge) ever said they were offended by "bitches", while several have said they are offended by "spazzed". It's just a thread title -- it's not worth offending someone over it -- let's just substitute "pants".

I agree that we should not use a word that is offensive in a thread title.

I reserve the right to be offended by elements of his work, and appreciate a community that understands I'm not just making it up. Because I'm not. There are enough UnAmericans here that find it rude, and I'd extend the same grace to anyone offended by something acceptedly rude, but that didn't ping my radar.

For exactly the reasons that ita just said.

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Quotable Buffy 3: Your OTQ May Vary

"Who said that? ME. Who? ME!"

These are both amusing. And now we have new options even.

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Good thing this isn't a board about Mark Twain....

...And good thing Vampires aren't real. ;)

But seriously - Are you suggesting that Buffy contains something akin to the problematic race language of Huckleberry Finn?

I guess I hadn't seen it like that.

But...isn't comparing words now universally accepted as degreding to a word with a secondary regional meaning a wee bit of an overstatement of the situation?

I dunno.

Also - To clarify, I'm not suggesting that we limit discussion to words within the Buffy lexicon, but rather that the Buffy lexicon be included - in it's entirety - in the lexicon of this place.

And yes, it's wonderful when a bunch of literate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree. I'm always just a wee bit uneasy when a bunch of literate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree to censor one another's dialogue.

Anyway, I'm new, and was just trying to suggest a kooky alternative that used the show as a baseline.

Oh well - y'all know this place better than I, that's for sure.

Anyway, since we're going that way, I guess I should mention that outside the context of Buffy, I do personally find the use of the word 'Bitches' offensive.

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They don't need another hero.

But if you keep rubbing it in their faces, how can they ever find a life beyond?

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There are quotes from the thread itself that could work. These are all Elena's summaries of votes:

Creepy Warren wins
The mummy hand lives!
Owww moves on.
Everyone loves a baby-eating Troll.

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But more seriously:

I'm always just a wee bit uneasy when a bunch of litterate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree to censor one another's dialogue

Are you saying we can use any language I want, then, in thread titles and the like? Because anything else is editing. We don't. We know we don't. I can't imagine a thread title yelling "retard!" or "crip!" Is it a majority thing, then?

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I'm always just a wee bit uneasy when a bunch of litterate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree to censor one another's dialogue

Also known as mutual respect and caring. Everyone self-censors, and each group has their version of a Hayes Code. It's part of society, of getting along with the Humans and not killing each other over (comparatively) low-stakes issues.

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Are you suggesting that Buffy contains something akin to the problematic race language of Huckleberry Finn?

Nope. You said that the Jossverse shows are this board's "universal text," and as such, we should use the language in that text, no matter what connotations that language has outside the text.

If this were a board about Mark Twain, and we used that logic, we'd be using racial terms that are well-nigh universally accepted to be offensive, *even though they're in the text.*

Just because "spaz" is in BTVS doesn't mean it isn't offensive outside of BTVS.

I'm always just a wee bit uneasy when a bunch of litterate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree to censor one another's dialogue.

Wow. Okay, you're new, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

This isn't a posting board where we only know each other as "BuffyFan168" and "XanderROOLZ", etc. A good deal of the active posters have met each other, many times, and have become friends. Hell, a marriage has arisen out of this community.

And that's what it is -- a community. Declining to use a word that others find offensive isn't censorship; it's politeness in response to others' wishes. And perhaps those wishes carry some weight, given the community this is.

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Everyone loves a baby-eating Troll.

Good one.

I'm always just a wee bit uneasy when a bunch of litterate, compassionate, caring indivuduals come together and mutually agree to censor one another's dialogue

I don't think that censoring thread titles is the same thing as censoring dialogue. A suggestion was made (um, by me I think), some people said, "Hey you know what? Where we live, that's pretty offensive." Other people took that into consideration, and we can figure something else out. I don't think anyone's going to ban the word "spaz" from the board.

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(FYI, Rafmun is my husband.)

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