Well, there will now be a two week break from all deathmatch announcements anyway.
You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?
Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Megan E. - Feb 25, 2004 5:48:31 am PST #6879 of 10005
Wolfram - Feb 25, 2004 6:31:43 am PST #6880 of 10005
Visilurking
Just to be clear, I'd never found the word spaz to be offensive before, and I've used it plenty. I don't think the show's use was meant offensively and I'm not adamant that it not be used if the context is verbified or whatever. Also there's a lot of (non-buffista) folks who'd find a thread named Spike's Bitches offensive. It's all about the context, baby.
I don't find the press announcements tedious or absolutely necessary. So I agree with everyone.
ION, I'd really like to see the Spoilage Lite thread recreated if there's a lot of interest. Otherwise, no biggie.
Jim - Feb 25, 2004 6:56:27 am PST #6881 of 10005
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Not that I care, but spaz is really quite incredibly offensive in the UK. As offensive as cripple, or more so.
Fred Pete - Feb 25, 2004 7:31:11 am PST #6882 of 10005
Ann, that's a ferret.
Jim, how did the UK handle "Band Candy"? That's the ep where Snyder had the line that started it all.
I'm trying to think of a way to keep the word without upsetting UKistas (and I note that you disclaimed upset). Maybe, "Quotable 3: Summers, You Drive Like a Spaz"? Use the full original quote?
Jon B. - Feb 25, 2004 7:38:10 am PST #6883 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I would think that "Delicious Babies and Istanbul got Spazzed" is less-potentially-offensive than "You Drive Like a Spaz", but I don't mind either.
Steph L. - Feb 25, 2004 7:38:46 am PST #6884 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Willow also used the word, to Oz -- though in an ironic, teasing way -- in "New Moon Rising." He says how in Tibet the things he learned in order to not wolf out were all about keeping your inner cool. And then Willow says, "Good, because you were such a spaz before."
amych - Feb 25, 2004 7:42:34 am PST #6885 of 10005
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I would think that "Delicious Babies and Istanbul got Spazzed" is less-potentially-offensive than "You Drive Like a Spaz", but I don't mind either.
My gut says just the opposite --- You Drive reads to me very specifically as the Snyder quote. The other is divorced from that context, and so much more uncomfortable for me.
OTOH, I'm not in the thread and doubt I will be, so I'm'a butt out from the rest of the naming discussion.
Aims - Feb 25, 2004 7:43:12 am PST #6886 of 10005
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Mother teaches disabled children and I had NO IDEA spaz was as offensive as it seems to be.
Learn something new everyday.
bon bon - Feb 25, 2004 7:44:06 am PST #6887 of 10005
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I think it's a given that spaz derives from spastic, but they're certainly not interchangeable in American usage. (The lines would never have been "drive like a spastic" or "such a spastic before".) Is it the case that both words are offensive in British English usage?
Jon B. - Feb 25, 2004 7:48:47 am PST #6888 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
The other is divorced from that context, and so much more uncomfortable for me.
In my head, since "spazzed" isn't a real verb, and has never (to my knowledge) been used to mean anything related to "spastic", it shouldn't be offensive. It's a word we made up whose derivatrion comes from the word "spaz", but not from the meaning of "spaz", if that makes any sense.