Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Cindy - Apr 17, 2003 3:49:25 pm PDT #643 of 10005
Nobody

Is chain smoking a sport?

You mean...I'm an athlete? RAWK.

It is if you do it right. We should petition to get it into the Olympics. I know the tobacco companies would be kick ass sponsors. We might even get free butts and Marlboro jackets, without saving all those pesky miles thingies.


Deena - Apr 17, 2003 3:57:00 pm PDT #644 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

um, I don't think I need an extra butt. Mine's worth two as it is.


Cindy - Apr 17, 2003 3:58:31 pm PDT #645 of 10005
Nobody

I'm bucking for a free Virginia slim butt, myself.


Liese S. - Apr 17, 2003 4:28:14 pm PDT #646 of 10005
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Liese, I haven't gotten anything from you yet.

Hrm. Maybe my webmail's gone kerwonky again. Anyway, all I said was, I'm Liese S. over at PF, too, albeit grumpily, and was there some sort of user number I should provide you with?


Deena - Apr 17, 2003 4:38:59 pm PDT #647 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Oh well, hey, an ultraslim southern butt wouldn't be a bad thing. I could just pitch the old one, I guess.


Cindy - Apr 17, 2003 5:34:27 pm PDT #648 of 10005
Nobody

I move those of us who want them can get butt transplants if we demonstrate significant need.

Seconds?


Deena - Apr 17, 2003 6:00:27 pm PDT #649 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

depends... I don't think I want to, erm, demonstrate, exactly.

I mean, second, absolutely.


flea - Apr 17, 2003 6:03:16 pm PDT #650 of 10005
information libertarian

Ladies, you must not have had the memo that all Buffistas' asses are, in fact, ass-tastic. If JZ's ass were here, it would tell you all about it. (Otherwise, try BRQG).


victor infante - Apr 17, 2003 6:05:12 pm PDT #651 of 10005
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

you must not have had the memo that all Buffistas' asses are, in fact, ass-tastic.

You know, flea, the ass is weirder than you think.

t /ducks. Runs away very quickly.


Michele T. - Apr 17, 2003 10:47:51 pm PDT #652 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I cannot even begin to say how strongly I feel the short version of the etiquette document should be the default version. Mere words are not enough, I feel so strongly: I should have emphatic gesture emoticons, possibly a flare gun.

We should not in any way make reading the most basic ground rules of the community weird, or difficult, or unclear, or in anyway not simple for ANY user. No one should have even the most lame "oh I don't know the tune/I hate filk" excuse.

There seem to be a fair number of people who agree with me on this matter as well -- msbelle and amych to name only two. I was willing to drop it when there seemed to be a majority of people who didn't want to use the simpler document, but in this discussion I see it going the other way.

I'm really, really, really certain, with whatever I know about usability, that the simpler document is better for what it sets out to do. The filk may be a better piece of writing. But it is not a better guide to the basic board etiquette, because when even long-term board members are admitting they've never been able to read the entire thing all the way through, that's a *problem*.