And we live to fight another day.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Nutty - Apr 17, 2003 7:30:35 am PDT #572 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I was going to say, but many have beaten me to it, that social capital can be lost in Bureaucracy, but it can certainly also be gained. Anyone who jumpstarts a stalled conversation, or makes the formal proposal of something we've all been thinking about, has done a service and gains regard thereby.

We manage a lot by social conformity -- by failing to disagree strenuously due to its not being worth the hassle. I tend to think it would be impossible to codify that entirely into a constitutional document, not without sucking the life out of it all. Which isn't to say I'm not still working on that Buffista Law Summary, because even we forget what rules we've passed, and have to fumble around vaguely, and it would be nice to have a cheatsheet to go back to.

I'll hopefully finish it over the weekend.


Beverly - Apr 17, 2003 8:02:18 am PDT #573 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Seconding Big Damn Evil. Er, not--seconding seconding, just saying, yeah, it's a good title, let's go with that. Unless we're voting, and can't vote before it's seconded, several times, in fact. In which case, I'm the first second. Which, not the First Evil, not even big damn evil, but you know.

Yeah. Like the title. Go with that.


Jim - Apr 17, 2003 8:03:12 am PDT #574 of 10005
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Oh! I've just got the Big Damn Evil joke!

Carry on.


Beverly - Apr 17, 2003 8:08:00 am PDT #575 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh! I've just got the Big Damn Evil joke!

AIFG!, right?


justkim - Apr 17, 2003 8:33:58 am PDT #576 of 10005
Another social casualty...

I suggested (from "Players") Angel 3: It's not like the last time, huh, Monkey Boy?

(Please let me know if I should whitefont any of the above.)


Scrappyat work - Apr 17, 2003 8:51:38 am PDT #577 of 10005

Wolfram--I want to clarify my prst by saying I was attempting (and not very well, apparently) to describe how your suggestions FEEL, not claiming that you actually said any of those things. For my part, I want to assure you that you are welcome to suggest anything, any time. I was under the impression that we were talking about why people didn't respond (lack of context, social capital, disimissing board history, etc) to your suggestions--NOT that we were saying that you shouldn't feel free to make them.


Michele T. - Apr 17, 2003 9:39:38 am PDT #578 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Hi. This is a great discussion, everyone, really - it's nice to see the thread working well!

I missed, though, where/why Zoe got banned. Was it for the PF posts? Could I bother someone to recap? Maybe Nilly it? Thank you!


Laura - Apr 17, 2003 9:42:51 am PDT #579 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.

Michele, I think the last straw was her insulting several members in the Buffy thread prior to the watch 'n post. Misspelling names on purpose and ignoring requests for civility.


bitterchick - Apr 17, 2003 9:47:28 am PDT #580 of 10005

Was it for the PF posts?

I think so. Since PF is a Buffista zone, posting there after being suspended was the same as if she'd tried to post here under a different name.


DXMachina - Apr 17, 2003 9:51:48 am PDT #581 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

It was the PF posts, especially the one referring to Julie.