The good thing about posting in Press is that everyone will get the message, so people won't be looked down on for numberslutting when they didn't know things changed.

Press is a manditory subscription, then?

Okay, reading Jesse and Jess's posts, I felt a little jumped on. I did take a moment to Doblerize, but I still feel that way. My apologies in advance if I'm taking the posts too much to heart.

Just for the record, I wasn't seriously suggesting we write in a dispensation for beginning/end of thread slutting. I probably should have made that clearer in my post, instead of just joking about Nevada.

I am however trying to preserve one of the silly little things that to me help make up the character of the board. It's not the same as cutting Bitches or Natter, obviously, but for me, the silly little things like end of thread countdowns do matter.

Brenda M obviously feels differently, at least on this, and I think it's safe to guess that others would agree with both of us. I'd like to be able to express my view, and hear others, but lately I feel like some posts, not just Jesse and JessP's, take the tone "Don't be stupid, that's not what we said", and I'd like to steer away from that if we can.

edited for clarity, and to say that I do realize this might fall into the same type of post I protest about. That's not what I meant to do, but I don;t know another way to phrase my point.

Press is a manditory subscription, then?

No, but I think it's reasonable to assume that if it's posted there, people know it and proceed on that assumption. It would be unfair to expect everyone to know about this based on the current discussion. If a new rule or policy or something been in Press for a couple of days, though, and I violate it, "I didn't know" wouldn't be an acceptable answer. Sort of like the public notices section in the newspaper - things like legal settlements or actions often are required to be announced there for a certain length of time. No one is required to get the paper or read that section, but it still counts. The difference being that most people actually read Press.

but lately I feel like some posts, not just Jesse and JessP's, as "Don't be stupid, that's not what we said"

To be honest, I'm feeling the same way, from the opposite direction. And all I can say is...I'm truly not on a mission to kill the Buffista culture.

Every resource-conserving suggestion I've posted is just that -- a suggestion. They're not even my suggestions -- I'm just the person who wrote them all down in one place. But none of them are laws, or orders, or anything like that.

Perkins, I must have skimmed your post more than I realized, because I noticed your support for end of thread stuff but not beginning. Speaking just for me, the end of thread stuff is sometimes actually pretty fun and creative - I'm thinking of some of the haiku exchanges in particular. And I'm pretty sure the first ten or so posts in any thread will always be slutting, and I'm ok with that. But sometimes it really goes on way too long, and (IME) without much of the interesting stuff. I think Jess's suggested wording will help on both ends, but we should make sure that it's clear that nobody's being stomped - add a little content to your slut post, and you're golden.

I'd like to be able to express my view, and hear others, but lately I feel like some posts, not just Jesse and JessP's, as "Don't be stupid, that's not what we said", and I'd like to steer away from that if we can.

I've seen a few exchanges like this, though I didn't notice it in the current discussion, and I agree that sometimes we need to be more careful when we respond.

To be honest, I'm feeling the same way, from the opposite direction. And all I can say is...I'm truly not on a mission to kill the Buffista culture.

Fair enough, and I'm sorry to have added to that feeling. I wasn't responding as much to the suggestions themselves, as to the tone I felt the following posts took. Perhaps I was reading too much into them, because of some other exchanges that have occurred along the same lines.

I got delayed in posting, so edited for clarity.

Every resource-conserving suggestion I've posted is just that -- a suggestion.... none of them are laws, or orders, or anything like that.

We should make that really clear, that we're not coming down with the Ten Commandments and outlawing the glitter culture forever -- just cooperating to help keep the board alive. At the end of the Press post, it should say, "If we get enough room for everyone to relax again, we'll let you know."

Oh god, Perkins, I'm really sorry. I totally didn't want to be jumping on you, and actually, I figured you weren't that serious. I just wanted to make my own little position clear, which is that yes, there are things we can all do to conserve, but no, we don't need to freak out over it, and honestly, I haven't seen anyone proposing rules for how to post, just suggestions which people can follow or not.

I think this is a recurring problem in the conversation about What Should We Do To Save The Buffistas -- we're all having trouble "hearing" people's tones of voice to tell if they're kidding, or exaggerating for effect, or are dead serious. Just something for everyone to keep in mind. It's hard to joke on the internet.

Thanks Jesse. Again, I'm sorry if I was "reading" your post wrong. I know that we are all trying to save the board, as best we can, based on our own visions of the board. I think the fact that we need to probably has us all a little on edge, myself definitely included, and we should all take that into account.

3 - Got your Message Center on auto-refresh even when you're away from your computer? Tsk tsk -- every one of those refreshes is a hit to the database. Set your auto-refresh to "0" (no refresh) when you're not actively reading or posting.

If we think this is a good idea, we should code it in. It's a simple change to make.