Dawn: I feel safe with you. Spike: Take that back!

'First Date'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Wolfram - Aug 21, 2003 3:04:54 pm PDT #4512 of 10005
Visilurking

I also want to apologize for the use of the word legislate. I saw a number of good suggestions on decreasing the board strain, and I agree with most of them. However, I also thought it seemed like the focus was starting to shift to blaming the underlying board problems on its usage, and I don't think that's the case. Like Fred's energy crisis analogy (and Fred, I'm only 30 so I remember my nightlight flickering a bit but that's it) we can do stuff to reduce strain, but that isn't going to fix the problem, it's just going to help alleviate it until a more permanent fix can be found.

I don't mean to say that the programmers are to blame for the problems, on the contrary they deserve all the credit for doing as much as they have and continue to do. But I think what ita and others have been saying is that Buffistas use a lot of resources, so reduce the strain a bit with smarter usage, and the code is ultimately what needs to be investigated because 200 mySQL connections open at the same time shouldn't be happening under current usage.

I hope I said that right. I'm beginning to think my posts in this thread are cursed so what I mean never comes through with what I say.


Trudy Booth - Aug 21, 2003 3:34:41 pm PDT #4513 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Whitefont needed in lightbulbs (3236)


Jon B. - Aug 21, 2003 4:15:54 pm PDT #4514 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Done, Trudy.


Cindy - Aug 22, 2003 12:43:12 am PDT #4515 of 10005
Nobody

Do we have any way of knowing how many people are subscribed to each thread? This is a waste-of-time question. I don't want anyone to go do extra work. Seeing the stats on who is here from which country just made me wonder about stats, in general.


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2003 1:41:19 am PDT #4516 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It's possible, but it would require someone to write a SQL query to figure it out.


Cindy - Aug 22, 2003 1:56:38 am PDT #4517 of 10005
Nobody

Well, screw that, then. :)


DavidS - Aug 22, 2003 8:44:34 am PDT #4518 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, screw that, then. :)

An SQL query isn't that complicated.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2003 8:46:50 am PDT #4519 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

An SQL query isn't that complicated.

Neither is an equation.

Unless you're talking about a complicated equation, that is.

Like equations, queries vary. That's why there are entire courses in relational database usage.


DavidS - Aug 22, 2003 8:59:42 am PDT #4520 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Unless you're talking about a complicated equation, that is.

True enough - I've written queries that had more than a hundred separate calculations in them. Still, I was making the distinction that writing one SQL query that did some sort of crosstab calculation summing up subscribers probably wouldn't be an all-day task.

not that I'm volunteering or anything. I've only done SQL within the context of Access, and that's only when I had to go poking around in the guts to fix something.


Cindy - Aug 22, 2003 9:17:56 am PDT #4521 of 10005
Nobody

It's still work. There's no "order this report" feature, so it's work; so it's a nevermind on my part. I was just curious.