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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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ChiKat - Aug 21, 2003 8:44:00 am PDT #4492 of 10005
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

As a semi-lurker, I don't come into these threads hardly ever, but I read others religiously. If someone (a stompy maybe?) could post the few things we could do now to help in Press or something, that may help reach others like me. I just reset my refresh to 0 and changed the number of posts per page to 25. Anything else that we can do now to help?


Monique - Aug 21, 2003 8:57:20 am PDT #4493 of 10005

I don’t think legislating Buffista behavior is going to solve the overall problem, and will probably cause some resentment in the long run.

Nobody's legislating anything. They're making suggestions. If even some people take up Kristen on the suggestions she's made about steps to conserve usage, then you all are already ahead. By a huge amount? No, but by a little, which leads me to:

Trying to significantly reduce usage by outlawing numberslutting or limiting posts is going to have such a small effect on the overall problem that its social cost far outweighs its potential benefits.

I feel like some people are trying to find the magic catch-all, the big gaping wound in the Buffistas' side that, when cleared up, will totally do away with the problem. There may be some code issues that could help, but I think people need to consider that a couple of smaller things (combining threads, not numberslutting, responding to even just two posts at one time, rather than two posts with another three), when added up, could help the situation.

Also, re:

Whether that means raising money for a bigger piece of fangeek’s server

Just so we're clear, you can buy more space, but there really is no "buying a bigger piece" of our server. The problem is with the number of MySQL connections, and Buffistas.org is using up all of ours. Not one of the other clients we have uses MySQL on their sites.


deborah grabien - Aug 21, 2003 10:03:24 am PDT #4494 of 10005
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

A simple question, for one catching up: Will a dedicated server solve the problem? Yea or nay?


DXMachina - Aug 21, 2003 10:09:25 am PDT #4495 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

No simple answer at this point. It may solve some problems but create others.

Kristen "Buffistas Building a Better Board" Aug 20, 2003 3:47:26 pm PDT


deborah grabien - Aug 21, 2003 10:12:43 am PDT #4496 of 10005
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

DX, got it. Question, though - suppose we were able to afford a better, faster dedicated server? Without long answers, or making anyone work, would that lower the speed-loss problem occurrence?


DXMachina - Aug 21, 2003 10:15:58 am PDT #4497 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Faster is generally better, but is also more expensive.

The catch is that if there are significant problems with the underlying code, they'll still be there regardless of how fast the server is.


Jessica - Aug 21, 2003 10:18:05 am PDT #4498 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have a related question -- does Fangeek have its own server, or are we sharing with other IH clients?


deborah grabien - Aug 21, 2003 10:18:11 am PDT #4499 of 10005
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Faster is generally better, but is also more expensive.

Understood, and figured into the question. Depending on the rate of how much more expensive, it might be doable.

The catch is that if there are significant problems with the underlying code, they'll still be there regardless of how fast the server is.

But - tell me if I'm not getting this - on a dedicated server, the programmer Buffistae would have the time and room to work on fixing the code?


DXMachina - Aug 21, 2003 10:22:51 am PDT #4500 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

But - tell me if I'm not getting this - on a dedicated server, the programmer Buffistae would have the time and room to work on fixing the code?

I don't know. I'd rather see us try to fix it on the less expensive option, than spend the dough and then have the system slow to a crawl under the load anyway.


Monique - Aug 21, 2003 10:27:21 am PDT #4501 of 10005

I have a related question -- does Fangeek have its own server, or are we sharing with other IH clients?

Semidedicated. There are other clients, but I have no idea how many others.

To give you a frame of reference, moving to a dedicated server could cost you anything from $200/mo. - $1,000/mo. Admittedly, that's just me looking at one other host's site, but I think it's a fair assessment of the general dedicated market.