And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears?

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Wolfram - Aug 21, 2003 6:44:44 am PDT #4476 of 10005
Visilurking

I don’t think legislating Buffista behavior is going to solve the overall problem, and will probably cause some resentment in the long run. I think we need to focus on streamlining the code to cut down on the SQL stuff (which I know is already being done by ita and others) and if current usage still has too many open SQL connections, then instead of finding ways to reduce regular usage we should try and find a way of expanding the board to accommodate the usage. Whether that means raising money for a bigger piece of fangeek’s server, or a dedicated server, or volunteers to help archive threads faster or whatever. Trying to significantly reduce usage by outlawing numberslutting or limiting posts is going to have such a small effect on the overall problem that its social cost far outweighs its potential benefits. I like the idea of getting rid of threads which are now completely pointless like Buffy spoilers lite, but only because it reduces clutter.


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2003 6:47:17 am PDT #4477 of 10005
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don?t think legislating Buffista behavior is going to solve the overall problem

Cindy (or Allyson?) said it worked at the Bronze -- not that we can do the same exact thing (4 posts per hour). But, honestly. When someone takes up posts 4995, 4996, 4997, 4998, and 4999 just to slut 5000, now it's not just irritating; it puts a burden on the connections.

There's no reason not to tell people nicely "Cool it with the number-slutting."


Fred Pete - Aug 21, 2003 6:54:15 am PDT #4478 of 10005
Ann, that's a ferret.

I don?t think legislating Buffista behavior is going to solve the overall problem

But it helps to recognize that we can all do little things to help reduce the problem. And informal things like not making eight serial posts simply to numberslut and limiting congrats and -mas to posts with other content can help.

Wolfram, are you of an age to remember the original energy crisis of '73 or '74? At that time, there was a lot of publicity about relatively painless things that ordinary people could do to save energy. Just common sense things like turning off the lights when nobody's in a room. A lot of the suggestions fall into that category.

And now I'll go into a corner and feel old, because I just realized that quite a few Buffistas weren't even born in '73 or '74.


Jessica - Aug 21, 2003 6:58:06 am PDT #4479 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think a "5 Simple Things You Can Do To Prevent A Crash" post in Press could only do good. (Unless the conversation generated about that post ended up crashing the server....oh, the irony!)

But seriously, there's no reason not to announce something like:

As you may or may not be aware, we have been informed by our webhosts that this lovely but talkative board is putting serious strain on the servers. We are working on a code-based solution, but until then, here are a few simple things you can do to relieve the situation:

1 - Post only when you have something to say! This means, keep numbersluts and "timelies!" to a minimum. Wish people happy birthday or bracket hugs via email. Every one word post brings us closer to a crash.

2 - Set your posts-per-page to something high. The more page views it takes you to catch up in a thread, the more taxing it is to the server.

3 - Got your Message Center on auto-refresh even when you're away from your computer? Tsk tsk -- every one of those refreshes is a hit to the database. Set your auto-refresh to "0" (no refresh), or at least turn it off when you're not actively reading or posting.

And....well, I could only think of 3. But none of those are horrible inconveniences, and they could all ease the server strain a teensy amount.


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2003 6:59:40 am PDT #4480 of 10005
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Jess, you're nicer than I am -- I was thinking of "Cut out ALL the numberslutting or else YOU get forked in the neck!"

This is why I'm not allowed to head up large groups.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2003 7:03:01 am PDT #4481 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Every one word post brings us closer to a crash.

Can we not use language like this?

Please?


Jessica - Aug 21, 2003 7:08:09 am PDT #4482 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yes, sorry. (Was trying to toe the line between quippy and doomsday-ish -- obviously went too far.)


Cindy - Aug 21, 2003 7:18:47 am PDT #4483 of 10005
Nobody

I don’t think legislating Buffista behavior is going to solve the overall problem, and will probably cause some resentment in the long run.

Wolfram - I wasn't clear on this, but I wasn't suggesting we legislate it. I was suggesting we stop doing it. It's like throwing change out the window when you can't pay the mortgage. Yes, it may only be change, but we've been acting like we've got limitless resources and we don't. We can curtail the number slutting. It's actually more exciting when you get a cool number by accident, anyhow. Why post just to say "Timelies"? IOW - I'm talking behavior modification, rather than enacting rules. We're not so rule-y here.

Fred - don't despair! I remember the energy crisis. I'm still a bitch about leaving lights on in empty rooms! I don't let my car idle. If the A.C. is on and you open a window, you get sporked in my house.


Fred Pete - Aug 21, 2003 7:26:05 am PDT #4484 of 10005
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'd also suggest revising JPM's suggestion by adding, "If we all pitch in, we can make a difference."


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2003 7:27:04 am PDT #4485 of 10005
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"If we all pitch in, we can make a difference."

Smokey the Buffista? "Remember, only YOU can prevent server fires...."