Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with just yanking the quote generator right now, if ita's all about the draconian. I say just go do it.

I mean, we still can't tell if that makes a big improvement in the number of SQL queries yet, can we? We're waiting for a tool maybe?

There's me - a day late and a dollar short, as usual.

Is there a specific post or series of posts you could point me to?

It all starts here: Kristen "Buffistas Building a Better Board" Aug 1, 2003 12:07:23 pm PDT This is my post following our account's temporary suspension.

The most recent information, based on my conversation last night with IH, is here: Kristen "Buffistas Building a Better Board" Aug 19, 2003 6:41:18 pm PDT

For those who don't want to wade through it all, let me sum up. Yes, we have a serious problem with the amount of server resources we are using. But there is a very strong possibility that this problem is fixable. We are working on a solution. Until that time, I am asking that we do nothing to increase the server load.

Thread spread kills servers dead.

But there is a very strong possibility that this problem is fixable.

Do we know if ita's recoding to make sure we closed SQL connections had any effect, are we in even slightly less dire circumstances?

We're in slightly less dire circumstances. The changes helped some. The new server helped a lot. It bought us some time. I'm hoping [*crosses fingers*] that the removal of the random quote generator cuts our usage in half.

At half, we'd still be at higher than acceptable levels but well within sight of meeting that goal.

But the down side seems to be that even if we do meet that goal, we're at a point where we can't put in any new threads without going dedicated.

We don't know that yet. Let's see what happens with the code. Someone could find a glitch and it could drop us far below our ceiling.

That would be happy-making for everybody invovled, I think.

Cross-posted with Board:

With all this talk of dedicated hosting, I feel like I should explain something about that option. Call it a warning or a disclaimer or whatever. A dedicated server may not necessarily be the best solution for us and it certainly won't solve all our problems.

Yes, when all is said and done, we may very well end up needing a dedicated server. But people should be aware that the kind of dedicated server we will be able to afford, as a community, will be significantly less powerful than the server we are residing on currently.

The server that we were on before? The one that we slowed to a crawl before they suspended us? That was probably more powerful than what we'd end up on with our own dedicated server.

Of course, there are some upsides to dedicated. The most obvious is that, no matter how much we talk, no one can boot us. Another is that while we have fewer resources at our disposal, we don't have to share those resources with anyone. But connections that aren't closing will bog us down and any server sluggish and slow, dedicated or otherwise.

I sense that some of you are impatient and want to just find a solution already but please keep in mind that, no matter where we end up residing, debugging the code and finding ways to streamline operations is essential to the future health of this board.

Just something to keep in mind.