Say grandfathering doesn't apply to the FAQ. Does it apply to the rule in the NAFDA thread headers?

I'm still surprised by the idea that persons unknown covertly made this decision and imposed it on the board as a whole. My reflex thought is that if there was no discussion, it was because no one voiced an objection. But it must have come up somewhere ... Buffistas never do anything without yammering, do we?

Don't think it is a case of covertly, so much as accidentally. That is people get asked to delete or move or whitefont a post because it is spoilery, and they do assuming the person asking knows what they are talking about. And the person asking believes they know what they are talking about, because that is how they interpert the spoiler rule.

How does one accidentally change all the NAFDA thread headers, Gar? That's what I don't get.

How does one accidentally change all the NAFDA thread headers, Gar? That's what I don't get.

I know we changed them, or at least I remember it coming up. What I *can't* find are the posts relating to it.

Are thread headers and slugs grandfathered in? Decisions about thread creation, policy, blah, yes, but headers and slugs?

Because, umm, the F2F one should be changed to "we did it twice", as we're post F2F now.

My reflex thought is that if there was no discussion, it was because no one voiced an objection. But it must have come up somewhere ... Buffistas never do anything without yammering, do we?

Depends when we made the call.

Also, having written the short etiquette, I can say that sometimes when you're writing a policy document, you go with common practice and what sounds good to you and figure people will change it if it isn't what was needed. It's possible the original FAQ was written by monks who scoured the Sacred Texts of the Buffistae for Divine Knowledge of what our spoiler policy should be, but more likely, they wrote it mid-season, and just didn't think about summer casting changes.

Because, umm, the F2F one should be changed to "we did it twice", as we're post F2F now.

And, I totally think that next year the slogan should be the "3 times and you still have your soul? We'll go again."

I know we changed them, or at least I remember it coming up. What I *can't* find are the posts relating to it.

It wasn't done when we had the conversation about how to change the FAQ to reflect that cross-topic whitefonting issue from last year, was it? I don't remember changing the slugs at that point, but maybe they were changed too.

I would assume that thread header slugs, etc, would have been discussed at WX. Doesn't that make sense?

Personally, I think that the grandfathering question rests not on "did we or did we not discuss this?" because, after all, the decision to write the FAQ and the slugs was made, regardless. I think we should take them as givens, even if we can't find a sustained discussion of them.

I think the most relevant question is, which set of prior precedents are to be given priority here, the FAQ or the de facto Buffista policy? Because, as has already been pointed out, they are in conflict, and that conflict is the source of much of the present frustration on both sides of the issue. Secondly, if we can't decide which is to be given priority, is voting a fair and reasonable way to decide the matter?

My problem with saying "we never actually went by the FAQ or the slug headers" is ... we did. We used them as reference to clear up many a mispost.

So it seems perfectly possible for some people to be sure that the times like talking about ASH leaving or Buffy not being dead are exceptions, in the same way that others see it as the rule.

So it seems perfectly possible for some people to be sure that the times like talking about ASH leaving or Buffy not being dead are exceptions, in the same way that others see it as the rule.

That's why I think this is the most relevant issue to discuss. I think this is the crux of the conflict.