Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.

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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Steph L. - Jul 24, 2003 6:13:39 am PDT #3291 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Thanks, Cindy. I don't want to be a rogue Buffista.

Well, I *do*, but not in matters of procedure.


Jon B. - Jul 24, 2003 6:15:32 am PDT #3292 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Can we define "main cast" to be "those whose names appear in the opening credits"?


Cashmere - Jul 24, 2003 6:15:40 am PDT #3293 of 10005
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm agreeing like crazy with teppy. But I've only scrolled a few of the said events, not actually participated in the discussions.


Jim - Jul 24, 2003 6:17:17 am PDT #3294 of 10005
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

OK, Changes are cool. How does:

"That major casting spoilers to the main cast only, not recurring or guest which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME on TV, press advertising or their official website are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the credits."

Strike you? So that excludes interviews and trade press stories, but includes full-page ads in Variety saying "Angel is proud to welcome Shannon Doherty as the new Slayer in town!"


Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2003 6:18:16 am PDT #3295 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Can we define "main cast" to be "those whose names appear in the opening credits"?

Or even "changes that will affect the opening credits"?

Like "'Angel' is being renamed 'Queer Eye for the Vamp Guy'" or such.


Nilly - Jul 24, 2003 6:20:47 am PDT #3296 of 10005
Swouncing

Teppy, from the approved proposal ( msbelle "Sunnydale Press" Apr 19, 2003 12:02:50 am PDT ):

The following procedure will be in place for taking action for unacceptable behaviour.
1. A user-complainant will try to resolve the complaint on-thread. If unsuccessful,
2. A user-complainant (does not need to be same person) will post in-thread that it's time to meet in Bureaucracy. In Bureaucracy, user-complainant will outline the complaint with linky citations, and request an Action.
3. At least 10 other users in 48 hours second the need for an Action. If 10 other users do not complain within the 48 hour period, no complaint can be made again about that particular incident, unless it is being used to illustrate, with others, a pattern of demon-like behaviour.
4. As soon as the request for action receives 10 seconds, Stompy sets forth Action.

So you followed 1 and 2 to the letter.


Steph L. - Jul 24, 2003 6:23:12 am PDT #3297 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Thanks, Nilly.

Except, w/r/t #2, I want to be clear I'm NOT requesting an Action. I just came over here to make sure what the procedure was.

I'm still on #1, seeing if it can be worked out in-thread.


Jon B. - Jul 24, 2003 6:33:21 am PDT #3298 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the credits."

Propose it be changed to

The Main Cast are those characters who will or will no longer appear in the opening credits."

(I'm adding "opening" because recurring and guest stars' names appear in those credits after the first ad break).


Katie M - Jul 24, 2003 6:36:23 am PDT #3299 of 10005
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

"That major casting spoilers which are being advertised by Fow, the WB or ME on TV, press or their official website are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads."

Well, once it's on TV it's not a spoiler by our definition, right? So that doesn't need to be in there.

(I think it'll probably be useful to look at some actual examples - what would and wouldn't be a spoiler, and whether people would've been upset to not be surprised. For instance, Faith's return to Buffy and Angel this year was announced in the press last summer - was anyone surprised by her arrival?)


Cindy - Jul 24, 2003 6:36:28 am PDT #3300 of 10005
Nobody

Thanks, Cindy. I don't want to be a rogue Buffista.

See, now my brain is all pirates, all the time, and I haven't even seen tBGPM. I can see you in a wench costume though, and perhaps with an eyepatch.

Well, I *do*, but not in matters of procedure.

Well yeah.

...

Except, w/r/t #2, I want to be clear I'm NOT requesting an Action. I just came over here to make sure what the procedure was.

I'm still on #1, seeing if it can be worked out in-thread.

Off of this, did we all say just dropping it - going to chill out - filled the definition of resolving the problem in thread? I think we did, but didn't we also say if there was a repeated pattern, that it was different? In other words, if Teppy and I get in a tiff, and we never have before and we just shut the hell up after a while, it's okay, right? But if every day, I start on Teppy and only shut the hell up when it gets ugly, shutting up clearly doesn't fit the definition of resolving any more because it can be considered a pattern of bad behavior?

(Sheesh. Still need more coffee. Are my questions clear?)