There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Allyson - Jul 02, 2003 6:21:38 am PDT #2795 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm sorry I kept it a wee bit vague. I wanted it to be convenient, and not be all, "IT WILL OPEN AT 2:23AM ON AUGUST 4th, OR ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE!" It's pretty much whomever is around when thread title is decided.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 02, 2003 6:38:12 am PDT #2796 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But how do we decide "sexiest stompie"? By voting?

ducks and runs from the room


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2003 7:00:52 am PDT #2797 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

But how do we decide "sexiest stompie"? By voting?

Nah, it's ita. That's canon.


Cindy - Jul 02, 2003 11:22:53 am PDT #2798 of 10005
Nobody

Self-government, where all citizens can vote, and citizenship is determined only by the ability to register, gives me a squick. (...)

I do think this is where discussion comes in. For instance, say newbie A (whom everyone likes well enough) proposes something. The few people who are around think it's okay. But then you (Allyson), scrappy, ita, and Plei chime in that you think it's a bad idea and why. Yeah, everyone gets a vote, but I'm going to be swayed by your input more than by newbie A or his idea.

But there's no way you can tell me that an opinion voiced by someone I interact with daily in multiple threads isn't going to carry more weight than an opinion voiced by someone whose name I don't recognize.

Or yeah. What Jess said.

It's like if I'm sitting at Mel's having dinner with two friends, and four strangers slide up at my table and by way of majority, can determine whether we're going to a movie, or dancing at a club. Maybe my friends and I hate dancing, but the majority has spoken and is now in charge of my social group.

Still (and I'm sorry lurkers) exactly for the reason Allyson states above - I don't like that lurkers can vote. I don't know away around it, and it's probably not a big deal, because it's not like the entire membership list shows up to vote. It just feels wrong. Because they don't contribute to social aspects of the community, I have issues with them getting a say in whether or not we have a Tim thread. Tops, there are 200 Buffistas who post with regularity. There are 1000 Buffistas. That scares me.


Jessica - Jul 02, 2003 11:36:43 am PDT #2799 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Tops, there are 200 Buffistas who post with regularity. There are 1000 Buffistas. That scares me.

In practice, though, there are also less than 200 voting Buffistas. I've never been a vote counter, but from the numbers, it really looks to me like the voters are the contributing members of the community.


Jon B. - Jul 02, 2003 11:36:56 am PDT #2800 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't like that lurkers can vote.

What about someone who reads the threads religiously, but is too shy to post?


Susan W. - Jul 02, 2003 11:38:53 am PDT #2801 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

IIRC, when someone had to post the list of people who'd already voted on one of our ballots to solve some technical glitch or other, there was only one name I didn't recognize. So I don't think we have a huge problem of non-participants skewing our votes.


Cindy - Jul 02, 2003 11:40:10 am PDT #2802 of 10005
Nobody

I acknowledged they don't seem to vote. I still don't like the potential there.


Jon B. - Jul 02, 2003 11:41:59 am PDT #2803 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'd like to think that we don't have a huge problem with anything right now and that this whole discussion is purely theoretical, inspired by some interesting ideas in that article.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2003 11:43:14 am PDT #2804 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Would posting once count, Cindy? How recently would they have to have posted?