Mal: Zoe, why do I have a wife? Jayne: You got a wife? All I got is that dumbass stick sounds like its raining. How come you got a wife?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


DCJensen - Jul 01, 2003 1:20:31 pm PDT #2747 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

Please, I beg of you all, can we not call longtime users here "Old Hats?"

There are no old hats in the Buffistas.

There are, for a Buffista, those who came before and those who came after one joined. Some who came before are no longer here, some that came after are more involved than you. And from before and after you there are similar levels of participation.

Buffistas do not have a true hirearchy. Each Buffista builds and molds his or her online presence as if molding a life. Want to participate in Bureaucracy? Participate. Ready for Bitches? Go for it. But you don't have to go full tilt into everything. It's OK. Buffista rise and fall in posting as they see fit. Others either let them or band together to persuade them otherwise.

Buffistas are almost an anarchy, in the literal sense of the word. Everyone participates, or doesn't to his or her own comfort level. Anarchy, however, is not chaos. We have agreed upon certain things and certain codes.

No one here is a god, although some are thought of as gods by words and deeds and personalities. Some have gradually become elevated to stompie footism, but it is not a foregone conclusion based on tenure.

We are Buffistas, and we are a group and individuals all at once.

To recap: those who came before, and those who came after you, have their own before and afters. Do not fear "Old Hat" groupings, as they are unlikely.

We are Buffistas, eternal.


Allyson - Jul 01, 2003 1:25:00 pm PDT #2748 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Buffistas do not have a true hirearchy

That's completely untrue. We just don't talk about it in our polite society.

I don't know how successful it was.

I think it's been successful in different ways. But I agree with the article in that there's a difference between being a registered user and a member of the community, and that the core has greater rights, because they by definition care more about the community.

And I'm in the minority on that. It's just where I stand, and it's a cold and lonely corner, but still, I'm totally right.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 01, 2003 1:28:54 pm PDT #2749 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I agree with you, Allyson. I also think that trying to define core might tear us apart. And we would lose some people that I value. Eventually, by not defining a core, we may also lose people I value.


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2003 1:34:28 pm PDT #2750 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's the up side to defining a core? Are there rewards to the community for doing that?


Beverly - Jul 01, 2003 1:35:26 pm PDT #2751 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Still with the less is more, over here in this wee corner. If someone's mean, stomp 'em like a bug, but otherwise? Let things tick along as well as they may, without overmuch fiddling. My take, anyway.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 01, 2003 1:36:52 pm PDT #2752 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think that the reward is that only a small part of the community is present for decision-making, making it easier and less painful. I am not sure the benefit outweighs the cost.


DCJensen - Jul 01, 2003 1:37:25 pm PDT #2753 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

Buffistas do not have a true hirearchy

That's completely untrue. We just don't talk about it in our polite society.

So, we have a hirearchy, or we have an untrue one?

Wait a sec, that implies I'm someone's pawn, and there's a king and queen, or queens running the joint.

Well, maybe not a pawn. A bishop? Maybe I'm a Knight...

Either way, I got the NGA part of clergy or Galahad down pat.


Jessica - Jul 01, 2003 1:37:52 pm PDT #2754 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

there's a difference between being a registered user and a member of the community, and that the core has greater rights, because they by definition care more about the community.

Absolutely. But part of the way we stay nice to each other is by having the core membership be self-defining, and mostly unspoken.

So no, we don't talk about it, much, but I don't think that's necessarily a flaw of our Buffista society.

Honestly, I'm not sure why we're talking about it now. Are we currently having a problem?


DCJensen - Jul 01, 2003 1:38:55 pm PDT #2755 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

What's the up side to defining a core? Are there rewards to the community for doing that?

Gold. Lots and lots of gold.

I think some frankencense, but it's a bit too smelly for most.


lori - Jul 01, 2003 1:39:29 pm PDT #2756 of 10005

I just url-hacked to see how many users we have, and freakishly landed on the ID of a friend of mine from another community. I didn't know she had finally joined. Cool!

By the way, we're up to 991 registered IDs.