I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


billytea - May 20, 2003 2:55:20 pm PDT #2289 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Right before they shoot him...

Can't we vote about this?


bitterchick - May 20, 2003 2:56:28 pm PDT #2290 of 10005

I'm just chiming in here after attempting to catch up. I don't want another process for anything. We have a process in place. Maybe it's a little lengthy. Maybe it's a little unwieldy. I don't, however, feel that an entirely new process is going to make anything easier or quicker. It's just going to be another process that we have to debate and hammer out and vote on and then try to remember the rules of.

When we had the vote on closing Bureaucracy to only registered users, I really don't recall any great debate. It was proposed and discussed for the first day or so. Then the debate kind of settled down because everyone who cared had their say and then a few days later we voted. To be honest, I don't see that much debate or contention about the grandfathering. What I see is a lot of people being confused about what the proposal means and that's a separate issue entirely.

In my opinion, the best way to calm down the bureaucratic waters is to just stop trying to tweak the system for a while. We'll finish up the current grandfathering proposal and then move on to the Minear thread. Allyson will propose it, within a day or so everyone will have their say, the lighbulb thread won't have any new posts for three days then we'll vote and it's done.

I am putting a moritorium on my own personal brain for at least a month or two. I want to see the system in action for a non-policy decision or five before I even contemplate another change to the system.


§ ita § - May 20, 2003 2:57:39 pm PDT #2291 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

New regime, billytea, new regime.


bitterchick - May 20, 2003 2:57:49 pm PDT #2292 of 10005

Can't we vote about this?

I'm pretty sure the new regime is declaring Martial Law.


Julie - May 20, 2003 2:58:14 pm PDT #2293 of 10005

I still don't have an answer to this from Light Bulbs

Clarification please...

If there are insufficient voters for this proposal to be resolved (ie, less than 42 votes cast) is it subject to the moratorium?

I don't think that I'm picking nits.

I do think that there are four vote options at the moment (Yes, No, No Preference, No vote) and I'd just like to know the consequences of all of them before I act.


Sophia Brooks - May 20, 2003 3:02:57 pm PDT #2294 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Julie

Yes, No, and No Prefence all count toward the 42.

If there is not 42, the vote is as though it never happened, so it could be voted on again.

I hate No Preference, just to make my position clear.


billytea - May 20, 2003 3:03:10 pm PDT #2295 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

New regime, billytea, new regime.

So just to get this straight, this new regime is going to feature military levels of discipline, which will be administered by ita, and will involve a lot of people being thrown up against walls?

I was going to ask how you ever expected to take power, but now I'm just surprised it hasn't happened by popular acclaim already.


Jesse - May 20, 2003 3:03:22 pm PDT #2296 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If there are insufficient voters for this proposal to be resolved (ie, less than 42 votes cast) is it subject to the moratorium?

You know, I don't know. I was going to say if it doesn't get the minimum, it doesn't count, but I'm not sure. Do we have anything in the Text? NUUUTTTTYYYYY!!!!


Jon B. - May 20, 2003 3:04:46 pm PDT #2297 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I want to see the system in action for a non-policy decision or five before I even contemplate another change to the system.

What bitterchick said (and all her words above it too).


Julie - May 20, 2003 3:07:27 pm PDT #2298 of 10005

If there is not 42, the vote is as though it never happened, so it could be voted on again.

Thanks Jesse! Sophia

edited to add...

You know, I don't know.

ahh.. welcome to Confusion, Jesse. I'm the first house on the right.. no.. the left.. wait, if you're coming from town and the electric train's smoke is blowing north, three people get off at chattanooga and I'm the house that's earwormed by Hepburn's Bunny Watson. Come sit a spell :)

edited because in my confused confusion I called Sophia Jesse.