I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jim - Apr 15, 2003 6:49:29 am PDT #180 of 10005
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Which is not to say I haven't used the word 5 times in a business context today, of course.


Jessica - Apr 15, 2003 7:47:12 am PDT #181 of 10005
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

So relieved to see that we've moved on to the etymology of curse wrods.

(Oh my god, I really just typed that. I've been corrupted! Get it off get it off!)


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 7:47:28 am PDT #182 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

cunt and twat both offend me. I'm pretty desensitized to the rest, but those two still push a button for me. Subhuman didn't push a button for me because I saw it as hyperbole, a shorthand way to say "consistent demon behaviour".


Laura - Apr 15, 2003 8:03:46 am PDT #183 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.

Such language people! I was never exposed to curses growing up. When I transferred to public HS I was clueless what the words on the walls meant. No doubt this is the reason the language has never been incorporated into my vocabulary. It doesn’t bother me at all when other people use such language, although often I am amused when dear friends apologize to me when they curse. It isn’t a part of my speech, but it is just fine that it colors other’s speech.

What does bother me is tone. It is very upsetting to my peaceful nature when I see my beloved Buffistas fighting. This is why I favor so strongly a rapid procedural method to deal with posters who violate community standards. I desperately want to find a way to deal with the rare problems quickly, and before emotions get out of control.

There is a concept in tort law concerning the proximate causation of injury. It is the initial breach that caused the injury. The causation does not need to be direct, the person’s act could simply begin a continuous sequence of events that ended in the injury, a so-called "proximate cause". I believe that the actions of meiskie started the sequence of events that wounded so many of us, and I believe that the actions of Zoe started this recent sequence of events that have resulted in hurt feelings and sharp tongues. I don’t blame the members of the community that were reacting to the initial offenders. They didn’t start it.

And Porn because I miss the porn counts.


Nutty - Apr 15, 2003 8:04:44 am PDT #184 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Because, to me, I'm saying the same thing, but in a more polite manner. I will of course spend the extra time to flesh out the words to make them more palatable, if it saves you pain, Nutty.

Allyson, yes, thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for. It was specifically the use of "subhuman", and not of the lack of regret for other offenses in the past, that bothered me. (I see I'm not the only one who couldn't parse "troll" out of it, but only the bad historical connotations.) My general thesis is that it's just bad form for one to come into the middle of a discussion about enforcing the politeness rules and then express one's opinion on the matter by breaking them.

I've got a fairly sensitive rude-o-meter. The curse words of last night really bothered me. Although, oddly, I find the academic talk about curse words of late night/this morning fairly entertaining.

(For the record, my boss uses a filter on his emails. He also works on sexuality textbooks. It's incredibly irritating that all of his emails come to me with the subject "Warning: possible offensive content". Poor soul doesn't know how to turn the filter off.)

(Let me not regale you with the ongoing struggle of Sex Pictures: Why We Can't Have Actual Photos Of Intercourse Positions. Because we argue over that every 3-4 months like it's Bureaucracy or something.)


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 8:06:30 am PDT #185 of 10005
Nobody

I believe that the actions of meiskie started the sequence of events that wounded so many of us, and I believe that the actions of Zoe started this recent sequence of events that have resulted in hurt feelings and sharp tongues. I don’t blame the members of the community that were reacting to the initial offenders. They didn’t start it.

Yes, to the above. So much so, that I can delete my pain-stakingly detailed post that's been minimized and waiting to be posted since about 7:30 am, Eastern, because I knew it was going to take the fun out of this thread, just when we'd found it again.

Bless you, Laura.


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 8:08:32 am PDT #186 of 10005
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Kat iz a bug meenie. Warm hur.

Oh, I can't tell you how much this made me laugh. Thanks, Plei.

B3: Like Porn, Only...PORN


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 8:12:08 am PDT #187 of 10005
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Grape Nuts w/yogurt:

Cindy! Mistress! I'm here. Boss me around!


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 8:13:41 am PDT #188 of 10005
Nobody

Do my laundry, wench. Also? I'd like a pony.


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 8:17:51 am PDT #189 of 10005
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Yes'm. Do you want it ironed, too?

The pony I may have to work on. How about a monkey instead?