I think this is my real issue against the Tim thread proposal:
I feel like we need to finish some other procedural business before we start mucking about with threads for the new season which is still a few months away.
Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.
Xander ,'Sleeper'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Sean K - May 12, 2003 12:08:48 pm PDT #1786 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Jesse - May 12, 2003 12:10:01 pm PDT #1787 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
He needs to apply this lesson to the next online community he joins.
Good call.
Trudy Booth - May 12, 2003 12:21:57 pm PDT #1788 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
OK, if "it's only an online community, you can deal with being banned for life" is a valid argument, then "it's only an online community, why do you need to ban people FOR LIFE anyway" is too. Seriously, what kind of ego trip is that ?
Shoot, if the guy wants to be here and be nice nothing stops him from coming under a new name and doing just that.
askye - May 12, 2003 12:28:49 pm PDT #1789 of 10005
Thrive to spite them
What's the point of even having bannings if we aren't going to use them?
Every day he was in here as Schmoker was a day he violated his suspension as meiskie and a day he should have been banned.
Trudy Booth - May 12, 2003 12:31:09 pm PDT #1790 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I voted against bannings from the beginning. I don't think we should use them. I think if we DO it should be a last resort and I think that if someone apologizes they should be given another shot.
And, as a Buffista in good standing, I get to say that and will.
Burrell - May 12, 2003 12:38:54 pm PDT #1791 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Seriously, what kind of ego trip is that ?
For me, it's not an ego trip. I have no ego investment whatsoever in his ultimate fate. It's more a question of how I want to invest my time here (as in here at the Phoenix board). I personally don't want to waste my time on this particular issue, and yet it seems to be the ISSUE THAT WOULDN'T DIE. I'll admit that it may well be selfish and/or cold-hearted of me to say that I don't want to keep reinvestigating the question of bannings, but there you go.
Trudy Booth - May 12, 2003 12:47:12 pm PDT #1792 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I think that BANNING FOR LIFE seems a little overly grand.
Someone acts like a prick, kick 'em out if you must. If they do it again, do it again-- maybe even for longer. But if "you must depart from us and ne're be in our company nor discussed again" isn't taking an online community a little too serisously I don't know what is.
And as far as "wasting time" goes, some people don't agree that it is a waste of time and would prefer to have their right to disagree not continually denegrated as such .
Trudy Booth - May 12, 2003 12:54:55 pm PDT #1793 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I'm sorry if my language is getting harsh, but people of a minority opinion really get dumped on around here. Some bail and those who stick around are going to start to get annoyed.
Burrell - May 12, 2003 12:56:51 pm PDT #1794 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I've never denegrated you, Trudy, nor have I argued against your right to speak your position. I said that I feel the topic is a waste of *my* time. That's a personal judgment based on how I want to spend my time. It is not a dismissal of your interests to say that I do not share them.
Jesse - May 12, 2003 12:57:14 pm PDT #1795 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I don't deny your right to disagree, Trudy. But I'm going to argue with your position when I think you're wrong.
And I don't think "people of a minority opinion really get dumped on around here." Around here, everyone has his or her say. If you're in the minority opinion, by definition most people's "say" will be opposed to yours. There's no way to avoid that, as far as I can tell.