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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Nilly - May 12, 2003 11:25:15 am PDT #1770 of 10005
Swouncing

So, there was a proposal from Allyson in Allyson "Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer" May 12, 2003 12:46:59 am EDT and a sort of proposal from Trudy in Trudy Booth "Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer" May 12, 2003 12:06:16 pm EDT. The first one got the needed number of seconds, the second didn't (yet?), and they are interconnected.

Where do we go from here?

Sorry to post and run away, but I really have to go. Will catch up tomorrow.

[Edited because as much as I need to run, I'd love to post with real words that exist in the English language]


Jesse - May 12, 2003 11:26:12 am PDT #1771 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, is Allyson going to write up a formal proposal so we can start talking about that instead?


Denise - May 12, 2003 11:29:28 am PDT #1772 of 10005

I thought it was decided that decisions made before the voting process would not be held to the new rules. So why does the 4 month "we'll see how we feel" period, even apply to mieskie? Wasn't he banned before we started voting? Or am I wrong about this?


askye - May 12, 2003 11:32:22 am PDT #1773 of 10005
Thrive to spite them

The four months revisit is about warnings not bannings.


Allyson - May 12, 2003 11:33:00 am PDT #1774 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Heya, I am so very swamped at work, and won't be able to write up the proposal til lunchtime, which is about an hour and a half from now. That okay by all or am I putting forks in people's eyes?


Sean K - May 12, 2003 11:37:17 am PDT #1775 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Real life should come before board stuff, Allyson. Write up the proposal whenever you have time. No need to rush on anyone's account.


Denise - May 12, 2003 11:37:36 am PDT #1776 of 10005

The four months revisit is about warnings not bannings.

That's what I thought. But even if it did extend to bannings, wouldn't it be bannings made from the point of the vote? Not bannings done prior?


Wolfram - May 12, 2003 11:37:54 am PDT #1777 of 10005
Visilurking

How did you know this was an issue then, W.?

He told me. And I'm not going to try and explain what he thought his suspension was, anyone who wants to know can ask him themselves. But I do know that at the time he left he was offered the opportunity to bring the issue to the overall board, and he chose to take a suspension instead, to avoid the unpleasantness.

Look, is he going to be able to come back in two months? Is anyone going to volunteer to bring it up again, because I don't want to do it. I'm sick of being the jerk who brings the pain and unpleasantness to this thread. But I'm a freakin' bleedin' heart attorney, who can't stand to see somebody who's reformed continue to get punished. When a man serves his time, I'd like to be able to welcome him back. If most people are vehemently opposed to it, which is what it looks like, fine. I don't want to debate about this ad infinitum.

I'm just one man.


Steph L. - May 12, 2003 11:40:17 am PDT #1778 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

who can't stand to see somebody who's reformed continue to get punished.

Like Jesse said, people can live without the Buffistas. It's not like we cut off his hand.

Also, I want to make sure I understand this: Wolfram, did Michael tell you that he really believed he was *only* suspended?


Michele T. - May 12, 2003 11:46:14 am PDT #1779 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

When a man serves his time, I'd like to be able to welcome him back.

But his time is a life sentence.

We can revisit this in two months, if at all, sounds like.