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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Wolfram - May 12, 2003 11:00:50 am PDT #1752 of 10005
Visilurking

Am I to understand that, upon receiving the recent Stompy notice to wait another two months, M/S/A has requested other Buffistas to intervene on his behalf?

Nope. I am doing it of my own initiative and accord.


Beverly - May 12, 2003 11:02:01 am PDT #1753 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Very upset about the way mieske conducted himself. Very uncomfortable about Schmoker re-regging. Extremely upset at losing John over this. Not happy about the early stuff, but Anathema did make a dedicated effort to conform, he did volunteer to "leave," believing that it was a suspension, not an irreversible exile.

IMHO, someone who has been keeping up and really wants to be back in the fold (knowing he could be quickly booted again) deserves another chance.

(Particularly since there is the whole "this all happened so fast", etc. thing here.)

My inclination is to agree with Trudy. This has been the test case all along. Shall we test it further?

And I wish John would come back, too.


Dana - May 12, 2003 11:02:35 am PDT #1754 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You know, given that the stompies have sent him an e-mail saying that he at least has to wait another two months, I'd really, really, really like to not talk about this. Because I'm already getting very upset, and I can't see this discussion doing ANY good at this point in time.


Sophia Brooks - May 12, 2003 11:03:26 am PDT #1755 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

How did you know this was an issue then, W.? I didn't even think there was a question as to whether it was a voluntary 'suspension' or a voluntary 'banning?'


Beverly - May 12, 2003 11:04:25 am PDT #1756 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Agreeing with Dana. Shutting up. Moving on.


justkim - May 12, 2003 11:04:45 am PDT #1757 of 10005
Another social casualty...

Thanks for the clarification, Wolfram. And I only cited the above posts for clarfication, since I believe they provide an accurate recap (mine) and verfication of that recap (yours) so others wouldn't have to slog.


Consuela - May 12, 2003 11:04:46 am PDT #1758 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Now he's finding out he's banned, probably forever

I don't think he's just now finding out, Wolfram. Or, no, I don't know what he thinks. But I believe he's being disingenuous. "Banned" means banned. ETA: And yes I realize he left voluntarily when it was determined he was the same individual. But that's like pleading guilty in order to avoid a trial -- he admitted that he'd violated the terms of his suspension, the response to which is banning.

The rules were clear -- if someone violates the terms of their suspension, they are banned. For good.

I'm sorry if M didn't understand that at the time he reregistered during his suspension and lied to people about his identity.

I don't think anyone during any of the discussions leading up to and following after the banning ever said anything to indicate that a banning was less than complete.

Do we really need to pull out the dictionary and see how it defines "ban" versus "suspend"?

ETA: and people have asked that we stop talking about it, so I will. Sorry.


Trudy Booth - May 12, 2003 11:06:31 am PDT #1759 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If the stompies have sent a letter saying "two more months" that isn't forever.


Rob - May 12, 2003 11:08:06 am PDT #1760 of 10005

And I wish John would come back, too.

Seconded. Can we vote on it now?


Dana - May 12, 2003 11:08:30 am PDT #1761 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

If the stompies have sent a letter saying "two more months" that isn't forever.

The Stompies sent a letter saying that it could not even be DISCUSSED for two more months. They did not make any promises, and in fact, they indicated that they didn't think it likely that his "record" could be wiped clean.