Why is Lightbulb open? I don't think it should be, since we can't discuss a proposal that's not been posted in there. I'm going to shut it again until Allyson's ready to word her proposal and start the discussion off with that. To obviate the "as I understand it" ness that would likely happen.

As for mieskie, my understanding is that he is banned for violating terms of suspension, and any revisiting of that needs to take that into account.

Thank you for answering me, Wolfram, but I'm with justkim-- and quite possibly with Jesse. He's banned, end of argument.

Also, this. There is no need for a big kerfuffle. I think we shouldn't post about this any more until we hear from one of the stompies.

Okay.

Lightbulb was open by mistake?

Why is Lightbulb open? I don't think it should be, since we can't discuss a proposal that's not been posted in there. I'm going to shut it again until Allyson's ready to word her proposal and start the discussion off with that. To obviate the "as I understand it" ness that would likely happen.

I had opened it because Allyson made a proposal, it received the necessary seconds, and it needed to be unlocked for her to post the proposal. I didn't think it we'd get this big of a delay in her posting the proposal.

Should we delete our posts there and repost after the proposal?

Allyson's probably on her way in to work, or actually working, or something.

My understanding was that he volunteered to leave, period, so as to avoid more unpleasantness.

This was also my understanding.

Although I don't happen to have a personal preference on the mieskie situation, I want to point out to you, Wolfram that you're ignoring an event in the whole shebang.

When he reregistered as Schmoker (which began with him posting in this thread as his first Schmoker post) he continued to raise hell for a while, including lying to us when asked if he was the same poster. He made our John (who I believe we may have lost on this very issue, although I have no John H. backchannel info. - that's just my guess) look like an ass, when in fact, John was just trying to do his duty as a stompy and find out if Schmoker in fact, was mieskie. Which he was.

There was more to this than a simple he-didn't-know-we-discussed-stuff-in-bureau confusion.

I ended up enjoying the Anathema persona, which is why I have no personal preference, but when you're stating all the facts, you might want to thread suck bureaucracy 1 and read December through March, skimming for both the mieskie, Anathema names. However, he did delete a few of the posts, I think the ones involved where he went off on John. However, I'm don't remember and don't care enough to check for myself.