Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please? Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.

'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Nutty - May 04, 2003 8:57:54 am PDT #1316 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

After a proposal, discussion and vote, further discussion on a given matter should be closed for 6 months. [W]e agree at 3 months from the day (date) the poll closes, to take a vote of confidence on this decision (only), to see if we think 6 months is too long, too short, or just right. The vote of confidence is scheduled to take place June 29, 2003.

Cindy B1#8873 clarified the "vote of confidence": "At three months, we'll see how the moratorium feels, talk about it and vote whether we think it's too long, too short, or just right. If "just right" gets a majority, I would imagine things would continue on course. If a majority of us feel it's either too long, or too short, I think we'd have to decide then, how we wanted to handle it, and whether we wanted to do so only going forward or not."

The consensus of Bureaucracy (B1#_____) was to "grandfather" in subjects which had been discussed prior to the decision to go to voting. If it was discussed and not implemented during our consensus-only period, it falls within the moratrium described above.

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Sections in red are quotations. B1 means Bureaucracy 1 at Phoenix only. Any and all comments welcome. Must go eat breakfast. Also find pronouns.


Jesse - May 04, 2003 10:25:39 am PDT #1317 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Very nice, Nutty! The only thing I'd ask is that the decisions be in red, not the quotes -- I have a hard time not just reading the red parts. Yes, I could never buy used textbooks that were already heavily underlined, because it would take me three times as long to read, since I would just read the underlined parts. Possibly this is just my issue.

And, not to start trouble, but wasn't there at least one proposal that got four seconds a long time ago and then was never discussed and voted on? If so, and the original proposer still cares, I'd say they can open up the formal discussion whenever.


brenda m - May 04, 2003 10:28:31 am PDT #1318 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The only thing I'd adjust is the statement that votes are yes/no/abstain - I think we've since decided that this will be up to the proposer to determine.

Great summation, though.


Betsy HP - May 04, 2003 3:21:11 pm PDT #1319 of 10005
If I only had a brain...

wasn't there at least one proposal that got four seconds a long time ago and then was never discussed and voted on?

The War Thread.


Lyra Jane - May 04, 2003 4:28:02 pm PDT #1320 of 10005
Up with the sun

War Thread and also considering decisions made in the six months before the voting thing started final.

Great job, Nutty!


kat perez - May 04, 2003 5:50:31 pm PDT #1321 of 10005
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Good job, Nutty.

Now, I have a nasty filk about voting floating around in my brain to "I'm just a bill."

I'm just a bill
Just a Buffista bill
And I'm sitting on Bureaucracy hill
Well it's a long long journey to the Lightbulb thread
Where a lot of Buffistas gonna talk 'til I feel dead
With a good ballot, I might be a law
How I hope and pray that I will
But today I am still
Just a bill


Cindy - May 04, 2003 6:12:06 pm PDT #1322 of 10005
Nobody

kat - you're not only beautiful, you're brilliant.


Jesse - May 05, 2003 7:05:32 am PDT #1323 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

War Thread

Oh. Heh.

and also considering decisions made in the six months before the voting thing started final.

OK. This seems like it can wait until/if it actually comes up, no?


Lyra Jane - May 05, 2003 7:35:12 am PDT #1324 of 10005
Up with the sun

This seems like it can wait until/if it actually comes up, no?

Well, the reason we were thinking about voting on it was because of the War thread. Someone was supposed to make a list of all the decisions that would be affected, but I agree it can stay "on hold" for a while...


flea - May 05, 2003 7:44:34 am PDT #1325 of 10005
information libertarian

FYI, A "Zoe", with no profile information available, just posted in Natter. Nothing offensive in the post, though irrelevant, but hey, irrelevant is Natter's middle name. Anyway, worth investigating ISP by a stompy?