To me, 'subhuman' is as offensive as a racial, religious, or orientation-related slur. If I'm alone in that, let me know, and I'll back down and try to reset my PC-o-meter.

So Susan, is this a warn Allyson or not warn her?

Kat iz a bug meenie. Warm hur.

This totally cracked me up. My friend once posted something about bothering her "bug time" and I'm freazing so by all means, WARM ME!

t /Natter

I'd also like a retroactive apology from ME's costuming department for the elmo clothes Willow wore Season 6. Very Tramautic.

I want a retroactive apology from everyone who mocked NSYNC's Bee Gees Grammy tribute.

Dude, I didn't even see it, and I still want to mock it. Can I, if I apologize first?

Actually, Allyson's breech of community standards has been pointed out to her (both at the time of the offence and during this discussion) and she has agreed to moderate her behaviour in future.

In affect a warning, as this board seem to consider the process, has been unofficially given, Allyson has discussed it and agreed to abide by the group consensus.

At this point you're just trying to moderate her thoughts, beliefs and opinions.

Bears repeating.

In other news, I want a retroactive apology from everyone who mocked NSYNC's Bee Gees Grammy tribute.

Huh. I *didn't* mock it in the past, but I will now...

[x-posty with Perkins]

Y'all suck.

And no, if you apologize before you mock, I'm going to know you're not sincere. Therefore, I ain't accepting your stinking apology.

So Susan, is this a warn Allyson or not warn her?

Neither at this point--I'm trying to figure out if it's just me that has that reaction to the term in question. It's entirely possible I'm overreacting to it because of my own connections and associations that not everyone necessarily has.

No, Susan. I was offended too. Didn't say it in thread, but did in backchannel to Allyson.

I'd also like a retroactive apology from ME's costuming department for the elmo clothes Willow wore Season 6. Very Tramautic.

And for Riley. Let't not forget about Riley.

And no, if you apologize before you mock, I'm going to know you're not sincere. Therefore, I ain't accepting your stinking apology.

Cool. One less lie thing to worry about.

but when the word Orwellian was brought up... that's when it became an attack.

"Orwellian" was unfortunate hyperbole. I am afraid of this board becoming overly concerned with the quality (well, lack thereof) of peoples posts. I'd rather read interesting posts too, but does inane = invalid? That is what I was talking about. I felt, that since the "gay" and "christian" incidents were some time ago that the ill feelings that had snowballed since that time are based more on Zoe being annoying and/or incoherent than any aggressive act. I summed that general mood up with the "O" word. It was unfortunate and not intended as an attack on you or any other individual.

I tend to use the term subhuman mainly to describe my brother, and also a couple of bands.

I don't have any more negative crap attached to it than I do to, say, dumbfuck, dipshit, asswipe, or fartknocker.

To bring out my "I'm TWELVE!!!" vocab.