Lydia: But you are a vampire. Spike: If I'm not, I'm gonna be pissed about drinking all that blood.

'Potential'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


amych - Apr 22, 2003 1:48:48 pm PDT #1041 of 10005
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

But the board is definitely learning from the past which is a very positive thing.

Yes. This. I think as long as we go along with that in mind, we'll come out okay (if occasionally with some local bruising).


Deena - Apr 22, 2003 1:50:31 pm PDT #1042 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

t shin-kicking wolfram

t whistling innocently


scrappy - Apr 22, 2003 1:51:29 pm PDT #1043 of 10005
Nobody

Wolfram--just wanted to mention that here was a post of yours in B'cy and that I was HEARTILY IN AGREEMENT! You go, Dude!


Wolfram - Apr 22, 2003 1:51:51 pm PDT #1044 of 10005
Visilurking

Ouch!

Mom, Deena's kicking me!


Wolfram - Apr 22, 2003 1:53:30 pm PDT #1045 of 10005
Visilurking

I guess we're all learning from our past. :)


Lyra Jane - Apr 22, 2003 1:57:07 pm PDT #1046 of 10005
Up with the sun

Hi, Wolfram. Good to see you back.

It's interesting to note that the whole mmmieskie/Michael business was his attempt to respond to the allegations in the B'cy thread which he hadn't been previously invited to. This is in contrast to the recent Zoe situation where we bent over backwards for days trying to get her to respond in the B'cy thread to no avail.

That is interesting, and helps explain why the mmmieskie/Michael posts were so pissed off (I didn't watch Firefly, so the Bureaucracy kerfuffle was really the first I heard of him.). I'm glad we've codified a procedure that will prevent something like that in the future.


bon bon - Apr 22, 2003 2:00:53 pm PDT #1047 of 10005
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I know I was against bending over backward to invite mieskie to bureaucracy-- I don't buy that he wouldn't have been as pissy about the discussion if we had. (and schmoker, who knew full well this thread existed, was a jerk here too.) Is it true that no one informed him? I thought someone had.


Deena - Apr 22, 2003 2:03:40 pm PDT #1048 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I actually believe he said he was informed backchannel, through e-mail or somesuch. He was pissy, because, IMO, he was trying to put everyone on the defensive so that his accusers would feel guilty and drop it.

I don't know what you're talking about, Wolfie. I'm just over here in the corner whistling.

And, whatever I think about that situation, I do think it's a good idea to invite someone who offends into bureacracy to discuss things.


Trudy Booth - Apr 22, 2003 3:33:01 pm PDT #1049 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I understand Trudy and Gar's concern that the rules as now in force give trolls the power to come in and ban folk and I hope that the two of you don't feel not listened to in all this.

I feel listened to. Thanks.

FWIW, my concern is more along the lines of another board dying (or a bunch of people follwoing a link) and a chunk of new people rapidly changing the board to suit themselves. I don't think the scenario is all that fanciful.

(It's also not nearly so picturesque as a Troll Army.)


Typo Boy - Apr 22, 2003 4:17:22 pm PDT #1050 of 10005
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Like Trudy - I don't feel not listened to at all. In fact Rob's statement more or less addresses my concern - and I think Trudys as well. As long as the stompies reserve the right to exercise common sense in the face of absurd or unfair warnings, I'm OK.