I'm really not trying to be argumentative, I just wanted to make sure I understood what he was saying. I probably should have emailed him privately about it, I'm sorry.

If no one else can see the possibility that we might someday want someone back after a ban, I'll drop this.

I just think you're putting the cart before the horse. I understand the sentiment that sometimes you need a procedure in place ahead of time, to deal with sticky situations when they arise. I don't think that this is one of those times. If someone is banned and later there's a desire to unban, we can deal with it then.

And making people like Burrell who want no change BE disenfranchised.

Just for clarification, I never said I am accross the board against change. I said that on those issues where I don?t want change, I vote ?No.? I have actually voted ?Yes? on most of the issues raised for a vote.

Sorry for the misrepresentation, Burrell.

yes, please.

Anyone unsure of what was said, please go back and read the last 50 posts or so. It seems every 10 posts someone says "wait, I'm confused". Every other post is saying "what I think X meant was this".

Please please please can someone tell me where the list of items that have voted on and passed is gonna live? Is a Rules document being drafted? Because obviously we are not all clear on what has passed and what the specifics are (I gotta say for me, if it was more than a few weeks ago, I've forgotten).

Sorry for the misrepresentation, Burrell.

No worries, Sophia.

Msbelle, Nutty is gathering particulars and putting it all together even as we speak (though we're not actually speaking and I don't know if she's working on it right this second).

I did not know that Nutty was doing that. Great! As always, I will be happy to htmlify the results.

I was thinking, due to it's size, it should have it's own page. A link from the FAQ and maybe etiquette would be appropriate. Do we want to make it more accessible than that? For instance, do we want to put a link in the lefthand column (with the FAQ, how-to, etiquette, etc. links)?

I think a link from the etiquette page is enough. I mean, all of our procedural vote-y things are basically extensions and clarifications of the basic "don't be a jerk" etiquette we started out with.

I wanted to also mention that Msbelle, when she first explained her proposal, said that if the stompies were asked to warn and it was a trolly situation, she was pretty sure we'd ignore the rules anyway and deal with the trolls, instead. That's why I didn't, personally, care if it were written down somewhere or not.

I think it should have a link on the right column, only because when people have questions, it is easier to direct them there directly-- as it will also contain a list of items already voted on and the results.

Also, if Nutty sees this I have a bit more time to work on it.