I'm not sure there's anything intrinsically evil about AI, it was just very unethical in the way it scraped its data.
It's terrible for the environment.
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I'm not sure there's anything intrinsically evil about AI, it was just very unethical in the way it scraped its data.
It's terrible for the environment.
It's terrible for the environment.
Really really really terrible. It burns horrendous amounts of power, and uses up a lot of water. Data centers use more power than all but a handful of countries: [link]
It's one of many reasons I am pretty anti-AI. The actual uses for science are much less destructive because they have smaller, targeted databases. But the big LLMs that are stolen data by Meta and Google? And the use of AI that leads to people using it to "write" and cheat on tests, and in legal briefings? Nah. Count me out.
It's terrible for the environment.
Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.
Historically humans have chosen any number of downgrades in quality in exchange for convenience.
It is here. It horrifies me but fascinates me too.
ION, hot diggity damn my coffee is good this morning. I'm already two-thirds done and it's making me sad that it will be empty soon.
I wish I could loop those first few sips for an hour without burning a hole in my stomach.
It's one of many reasons I am pretty anti-AI. The actual uses for science are much less destructive because they have smaller, targeted databases. But the big LLMs that are stolen data by Meta and Google? And the use of AI that leads to people using it to "write" and cheat on tests, and in legal briefings? Nah. Count me out.
Me too.
Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.
I know and understand the multitude of reasons to oppose AI, but there is no halting technology. Perhaps safeguards can be imposed, but judging from the changes in only my lifetime, I can only imagine what life will be like in another decade. The change only becomes more rapid. Will we meet George Jetson in my lifetime, maybe? My only hope is that the good outweighs the bad, but change is inevitable.
Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.
Yeah, no. That’s like saying, “womp womp. Might as well burn coal and drive a gas guzzling SUV. It’s too late to do anything so why not make it worse?”
Yeah, no. That’s like saying, “womp womp. Might as well burn coal and drive a gas guzzling SUV. It’s too late to do anything so why not make it worse?”
I'm not saying you're obliged to use it directly or like it, but it's already been widely integrated into just about everything. Even when you're not directly engaged with something like ChatGPT you're interacting with it.
You won't have the kind of choice you'd have between buying an electric vehicle and an oversized pickup because it's being so thoroughly woven into the business structure.
Everywhere there's Capitalism there will be AI because AI eliminates labor costs.
I think it's just acknowledging reality. Humanity ain't great when it comes to long-term thinking vs. short-term gains, as Hec says, and AI's unlikely to go anywhere. There are some ways its impact can be lessened [link] but I'm mostly just trying to figure out how to get to retirement age without it replacing me.
(Tragically, BTW, figuring out how to get to retirement age with a job = having Doctor Strangelove the damn tech.)
Perhaps safeguards can be imposed
It just feels like our gerontocracy in Congress didn't understand this technological shift at all, and now it's far too late to put any safeguard on it. The Tech companies already scraped all the books and data they needed to get started and there was no check on them.
I definitely think that just on the cultural side there will be AI generated pop hits (I've already heard perfectly credible contemporary country songs done by AI), children's shows and romances within a year or two. Because a lot of people consume culture because they want their tropes served up to them with no surprises.
That's the whole model of Spotify which is already working AI songs into particular mood playlists.