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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Beverly - Oct 22, 2018 9:31:06 am PDT #994 of 30019
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I've done opioids for pain in the past, some more efficacious than others. For a long time Tylenol with codeine was the most efficient at knocking back pain for me, but it no longer works.

I rarely take painkillers, but when I need something OTC, a doc's rec was two max strength (500mg? I think?) Acetaminophen and two max strength (300mg?) ibuprofen. And most times, it does lower the pain, if it doesn't knock it out entire. The odd thing is, the combo works as well on headache (usually sinus-eyestrain involved, if not caused) as it does on body aches. Go, Ibunol!

We have a programable thermostat, but we, well, don't. It's in a jog in the wall that held a line of coathooks when we moved in, but was the *perfect* place for a Billy bookcase (and the only place it would fit, actually), so now we can't easily access it to change settings. Sometimes it doesn't do its job and the periphery of the house gets colder than it should, so H applies the remedial bag of frozen peas (or corn), which triggers it on. He did go in there armed with a headlamp and long skinny tools to extend his reach to reset it a few degrees higher last winter. It's been okay since then.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2018 9:33:10 am PDT #995 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OMG, I just had a flashback to the building I lived in where the one thermostat was in the front hall. We almost died of the heat one winter day when someone was moving, or they were doing some work in the building, whatever the reason was, they had propped the door open so the thermostat was very cold and trying to warm up! I eventually went out there with a hair dryer.


Gudanov - Oct 22, 2018 9:44:44 am PDT #996 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Needless to say, I have an app-controlled thermostat and it's pretty cool even though it was just a return I got for free.


bennett - Oct 22, 2018 9:53:27 am PDT #997 of 30019

There was a very depressing documentary on PBS last week about how opiods work on the body and why they're so addictive. As said above, it does vary from person to person, but I would be careful. Particularly if you're already something of an addictive personality.

FWIW, the documentary was actually quite interesting. What was depressing was the how poorly we help people who are addicted. No health care, no hospital beds for people who need to detox, prison instead of medication for too many people, failure to use medications that actually do help, etc.


meara - Oct 22, 2018 10:23:57 am PDT #998 of 30019

Yeah, I'm not at all worried about being mentally addicted (obviously physical addiction is not as easy to avoid, but thus the slow taper). I honestly don't really understand what's fun about opioids? Like, 45 min to an hour after I take a pill, I notice my focus is not good--I start moving my iPad towards me and away from me, and go "oh right, meds". I feel fuzzy and not with it, but not really in a fun relaxed buzzed-on-alcohol kind of way? It's fine, but it's not a sensation I particularly enjoy or look forward to?

I definitely would worry about being addicted to some form of uppers, if those were being offered to me. That sounds like my kind of jam. (Luckily for me, that has never been an option other than caffeine)

I did try to look at my medical records but what they provide for patient review is ridiculously limited (basically three different ways to look at my medication list and a couple different ways to look at some lab results, but nothing about my surgery and no physician notes). I'm used to looking at this stuff from the medical side (when reviewing records for work) and it's annoying to not get the appropriate level of detail! So then I googled, which was not a good thing. I didn't really need to know that stuff.

Last night, though, we did determine that I NEED that peg-leg crutch thing....so I can be a peg-leg pirate for Halloween!!!


-t - Oct 22, 2018 10:27:11 am PDT #999 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I was gonna say 3000mg of M&M's might help, but that's only approximately 3 candies. I don't see that making much of a difference.

Yes, I just googled "how much does an M&M weigh?"


-t - Oct 22, 2018 10:28:18 am PDT #1000 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

so I can be a peg-leg pirate for Halloween!!!

Ooooh. Yes!


lisah - Oct 22, 2018 10:48:13 am PDT #1001 of 30019
Punishingly Intricate

Ime, opioids make me nauseous at any but the bare minimum dose and don't do much to relieve pain. I'm ibuprofen all the way. Of course I haven't had as bad an injury as meara's (knock wood) so who knows what I'd do if I did.


Laura - Oct 22, 2018 10:49:48 am PDT #1002 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I honestly don't really understand what's fun about opioids?

That has been a mystery to me too. Although it obviously is for way too many people.

I have marked up my sample ballot for all 30 selections. Now to decide whether to early vote or see my friendly neighborhood poll workers on the big day.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2018 11:07:12 am PDT #1003 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I'm so stressed and angry that, because of this hellscape of an administration, I have several different text threads going with friends and family who are trans, telling them how much I love them and promising that I will use my privilege to support them and keep them safe. It's such fucking bullshit. They're terrified right now.