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'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Apr 15, 2019 2:15:54 pm PDT #6941 of 30019

Ooh, good point. I did not cause Norte dame to burn down today. Winning!

I wonder if that kid will be super ashamed of their parents when they find out.


Dana - Apr 15, 2019 2:16:41 pm PDT #6942 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Is it weird that I'm still sad, but also kind of comforted by the knowledge that nothing lasts forever? I'm not sure how to explain it. Maybe it's that impermanence makes things precious.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 15, 2019 2:19:45 pm PDT #6943 of 30019
What is even happening?

I've thought about that several times today too, Cindy. Like how do you live with having caused that level of damage.

I've been feeling guilty on the hypothetical person's behalf, Laura.

Connie, my daughter and I were saying I think these might be those kind of incidents, where they're so horrific, you convince yourself it had to be your co-worker who did it. Who could live with that?

Emily, according to this article [link] it's a boy.

This one says the family hasn't revealed the baby's sex: [link]


megan walker - Apr 15, 2019 2:33:21 pm PDT #6944 of 30019
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Wow. Apparently, François-Henri Pinault (aka Salma Hayek's husband) has already donated $100 million euros to rebuilding Notre-Dame (part of Macron's speech was calling for a national campaign to fund the rebuilding).


Laura - Apr 15, 2019 3:27:37 pm PDT #6945 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Damn, I held it together pretty well reading various reports and seeing pictures and videos, but I just clicked on the video of the people in Paris singing. Too much.


Dana - Apr 15, 2019 3:48:58 pm PDT #6946 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I had heard that the north rose window was gone, but they're saying it was saved.


Jesse - Apr 15, 2019 3:53:16 pm PDT #6947 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is it weird that I'm still sad, but also kind of comforted by the knowledge that nothing lasts forever? I'm not sure how to explain it. Maybe it's that impermanence makes things precious.

No, I think that makes sense. It also sounds like most of it is going to be OK, which is also comforting. I mean, big-ass stone doesn't burn.


-t - Apr 15, 2019 4:24:08 pm PDT #6948 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

big-ass stone doesn't burn

I find this super comforting. And, yeah, taht was kind of the point of building with stone, wasn't it?


Connie Neil - Apr 15, 2019 4:54:07 pm PDT #6949 of 30019
brillig

It doesn't burn, but it can shatter or destabilize or cook. Or fall over when the wooden frameworks burn.

But there are amazing pictures of the vaulting from the nave, still standing.


sarameg - Apr 15, 2019 4:57:07 pm PDT #6950 of 30019

Is it weird that I'm still sad, but also kind of comforted by the knowledge that nothing lasts forever? I'm not sure how to explain it. Maybe it's that impermanence makes things precious.

One of the things that's stuck with me from Bhutan was the embrace of impermanence simultaneous with a deliberate choice to hold a permanence of memory. So many of their sacred spaces, they'd say 400 years. Oh, but burnt down/earthquake several times. This was rebuilt 20 yrs ago. Less a focus on mourning what was lost, more creating again with the same spirit. Not rebuilding, not making better, just imagining again.

I like old stuff, I like wondering about the hands that have touched, the physical clues left to another human, so understanding the Bhutanese mindset was a reach for me. But those spaces felt no less touched by the human hands whose marks had been erased by disaster than those that survived them. It's in the purpose, I guess.