Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Oct 13, 2020 9:26:48 am PDT #27592 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I guess I shouldn't be shocked that it's the actual GOP but I am. It's just so flagrant


aurelia - Oct 13, 2020 9:33:08 am PDT #27593 of 30019
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Nothing like committing voter fraud so that you can prove it exists.


dcp - Oct 13, 2020 9:48:31 am PDT #27594 of 30019
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Everyone comes out at their own pace.

That brings to mind something that came up during discussion of ballot procedures with my family not long ago.

My great-great-grandfather Zachariah S. Hastings (1838 - 1925) wrote his autobiography and sent copies to his sons in 1911. In it, he describes voting in 1860:

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page 27

Chapter Eight - First vote. Oldest brother. War. Return to Indiana. In Tophet again. First Baptism. Clarksburg meeting.

About this time I was, [for] the first time privileged to exercise my right as a voter.

The question was whether the state of Missouri should secede from the union. Brother and I voted in the negative.

Then during the same year, 1860, November the 6th, we were privileged to vote for a President of the United States. The candidates were A. Lincoln, S. A. Douglas, J. B. Breckenridge and John Bell. Brother voted for Bell for he thought Bell was the only one that would save the union. I voted for Douglas because I thought his election would save from the impending war. The manner of voting was then quite different from what it is now. The judges of election sat in the school house by a lower open window and the voters would file up to the window on the outside. For instance when I appeared at the window to vote, a judge from within asked, "What is your name?" I replied, Z. S. Hastings. "For whom do you vote," asked the judge. I vote for Stephen A. Douglas," was my reply. The judge then said in a loud voice, "Z. S. Hastings votes for Stephen A. Douglas." The clerk recorded it. That was all. The next president I voted for was Abraham Lincoln. And, as it is said, of some Democrats who are still voting for Thomas Jefferson, I am still voting for Abraham Lincoln, that is to say, these Democrats are still voting for some of the principles that were taught by Thomas Jefferson, and I am still voting for some of the principles held by Abraham Lincoln.

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Wikipedia tells me, "In the U.S., voting by secret ballot was universal by 1892...."

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I thought it was interesting, anyway.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 13, 2020 9:53:26 am PDT #27595 of 30019
What is even happening?

That's so cool, dcp.


-t - Oct 13, 2020 10:01:56 am PDT #27596 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Wow, that's fascinating


Tom Scola - Oct 13, 2020 10:12:09 am PDT #27597 of 30019
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Missouri was the only state that Stephen A Douglas won.


Theodosia - Oct 13, 2020 10:27:44 am PDT #27598 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

So very cool, indeed.

I found out that early voting starts in Somerville this Saturday, one long block away from me, so that's where I'm going.


-t - Oct 13, 2020 10:54:01 am PDT #27599 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Nice, Theo!


Topic!Cindy - Oct 13, 2020 11:59:12 am PDT #27600 of 30019
What is even happening?

Yes, Massachusetts early voting is from Saturday, October 17, 2020 through Friday, October 30th.

I requested a mail-in ballot for the presidential election, when I voted early in-person for the MA state primary. I've already filled out my ballot. I'm going to drop it off in person during the first week of early voting.

Our town's hours are kind of erratic, and that first day, early voting doesn't start until 2:00pm, so whether I vote on that day or wait until Sunday or Monday, depends on the lines.


Jesse - Oct 13, 2020 12:03:41 pm PDT #27601 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm about to go put my ballot in a legit drop box!