Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Aug 21, 2020 1:01:00 pm PDT #25165 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I did some texting today for a Dem candidate for Arkansas State Senate. - The intro text says her name, TWICE and Arkansas State Senate. The # of people who respond TRUMP 2020 is puzzling.


-t - Aug 21, 2020 1:10:35 pm PDT #25166 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Perhaps that is how they respond to all texts

"We're out of milk, pls pick some up"/TRUMP 2020

"You up?"/TRUMP 2020

"We tried to deliver your package but you weren't home..."/TRUMP 2020

"This text is related to a DoorDash delivery..."/TRUMP 2020

"Here"/TRUMP 2020


msbelle - Aug 21, 2020 1:12:41 pm PDT #25167 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

possibly. We are Repping the campaigns, obviously, so we stick to strict scripts and replies, but it makes me want to start a civics texting group, so I could respond - hey dummy, Trump doesn't make laws for your state - that's your state Senator and those laws affect you a lot more than who is President.


Cashmere - Aug 21, 2020 1:15:03 pm PDT #25168 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

A friend of mine came over for a fire and driveway beers last weekend and she peed in our yard--by her choice. She had a mask so I was fine with her using our bathroom but she plays it safe.

Which is good.

DH pees in the back yard at night pretty regularly. He says he likes to save water by not flushing (he washes his hands in the utility sink by the back door).

Not one person on earth could walk into the White House in January and mend the damage while instituting miraculous life-changing policies right off the bat.

Beverly is wise. It will take us decades to bounce back from this nightmare.


Jesse - Aug 21, 2020 3:23:47 pm PDT #25169 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We are Repping the campaigns, obviously, so we stick to strict scripts and replies, but it makes me want to start a civics texting group, so I could respond - hey dummy, Trump doesn't make laws for your state - that's your state Senator and those laws affect you a lot more than who is President.

Literally all of our state and local elections will be decided in the primary 9/1, and I still see people locally talking about getting ready to vote in November. It makes me nuts.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 21, 2020 6:33:08 pm PDT #25170 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I did some texting today for a Dem candidate for Arkansas State Senate. - The intro text says her name, TWICE and Arkansas State Senate. The # of people who respond TRUMP 2020 is puzzling.

It wouldn't be puzzling if you lived here. Imagine a bunch of parrots wearing red MAGA caps.


Shir - Aug 22, 2020 12:29:20 am PDT #25171 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

the lack of willingness to *work together* to accomplish positive progress for everybody--both are sadly lacking

I've been despairing at the grasp of mutual responsibility here as well, especially since COVID. Seems to be much less "love your neighbor as yourself/one for all, all for one" model that I was hoping for, and more "if I'm fucked over, let everyone else be fucked over as well". If there's a set of mind that I'm allergic to is learned helplessness. To see it plays out on millions is despairing.

But it's not the people who despair me. It's a world that was taught to expect for the worse and accept this as the status quo, even if the actions of enough of us together can make a difference. And in the end, you can't survive without hope. So, even if it's out of spite, I remain hopeful. COVID will pass (because brilliant/lucky scientists) and I'll be able to hug my friends again. And until that happens (and after this happens), I might convince few other souls that their words actions matter and that there is a greater good, one m-f at a time. (Hi, I remain hopeful, but I still swear a lot).

(I originally came here to say that onion crackers are my new found love and that I speak to everything around me 24/7 as well, but then I saw Beverly's post, so you got a mini-speech).


Calli - Aug 22, 2020 2:54:52 am PDT #25172 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Onion crackers sound good. Spite hope does, too.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 22, 2020 3:41:15 am PDT #25173 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It comes back to the Angel paraphrase- if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.

I know I am beating a dead horse and preaching to the choir, but the anger of some people scares me. Not the anger of protestors or "looters", but the anger of the police and my neighborhood Trump supporters. Personally, I have a pretty angry personality, but I hate who I become when I am enraged, so I have worked on that, but then their anger makes me angry and it just circles around. So I am also afraid of my anger back at them.

I am trying to assume best intentions- assume people are trying to their capacity, but it is hard. I can't really even try to engage or have rational arguments with people like JZ does, because my rage impedes my rhetoric and I just want to yell at them.


Jesse - Aug 22, 2020 4:10:13 am PDT #25174 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It comes back to the Angel paraphrase- if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.

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