I'm very afraid that the voter suppression/intimidation effort will be enough, and if it isn't enough, that there will be a civil war as a result of Trump refusing to leave power. Too many people are being dismissive and dangerously optimistic about Trump simply not being ABLE to refuse to leave. Even if the military comes to remove him, his nutcase hardcore followers will start shooting people, and I don't have any faith in the cops stopping them. I hope I'm wrong, but I think we have to realize that there really isn't anything Trump will not do or attempt to do to save himself. Our existence may depend on the strength of conscience of other people in power, which has lately proven to be mostly nonexistent.

I agree 100% with all of this. I think that things are so bad that Biden and Harris can win, but I don't think Trump will leave office. And if he's removed by force, I think we're looking at actual civil war.

I don't think "actual civil war" is where we're headed - there isn't a clear geographical line the way there was in 1860, and for all we talk about "red states" and "blue states", the parties are far more mixed than that implies. And military leadership has been repeatedly saying they aren't getting involved in politics.

What seems much more likely is a government shutdown writ large, maybe combined with a vastly scaled-up version of the protests we've been seeing with the BLM movement. What was that figure that got quoted a while back, that it only took 5% of the population to bring the country to a standstill?

I do think some of what happens post-election depends on whether Democrats win at the House and Senate level. While Trump may well hunker down, I don't know that other Republican losers will also. IF Democrats can expand their hold on the House and even take control of the Senate, Trump would lose supporters. He'll still claim election fraud, as will some of the Republicans, but it would dampen (I hope) their enthusiasm for the fight.

But that's a big IF.

Also, it will matter what the Republic money people say post-election. Apparently Wall Street has been putting money into Biden/Harris. Probably not because they like Biden or Harris, but because they want someone stable at the helm.

Can't say I ever thought I'd be hoping for support from Big Business.

I don't think "actual civil war" is where we're headed - there isn't a clear geographical line the way there was in 1860

I wasn't thinking about it in terms of geography, or even red states vs blue states, but in terms of rabid Trumpers -- who live in all 50 states -- with lots of guns taking any excuse to get violent.

Timelies all!

Living in scary times, we are....

Text-banking again today while laundry goes round. Today for some MO state house races.

I went to bed last night feeling lousy -- sore throat, my ears hurt, runny nose. I was figuring allergies, but this morning I have an actual fever. If the fever sticks around, I'll go get a Covid test. Pretty sure this is just a cold, though. Which is still annoying.

Doggo was awake at 5am again. Got him to go back to sleep until about 615, after some effort. And then we were up. Took him in the car (in his crate) to get McDonald's for breakfast, because I can't leave him home so early barking his head off!! He did pretty good! And then one of his litter mates came over and had playtime so now he should be zonked out

I tlked to my dad and we briefly skimmed over current events and the election. I have a feeling he wont' be voting for President this year (he didn't last election). But he said he was torn about what to do because he's too disgusted with the Republicans to vote for them but too conservative to vote for Democrats. So his strategy in local election is to vote for Black Republicans. His theory being they are closer to his Republican views and from what he has read on the various local and state candidates it seems his theory is right.