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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Jul 22, 2020 9:09:44 am PDT #23859 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

But really, I've enjoyed the SW animated stuff more than the movies recently: the last six episodes of Clone Wars season 7 was excellent. (I have no interest in watching Anakin Skywalker be a whiny jerk so I basically only watched the Ahsoka eps in the final season, and those were great.)

I've watched some of the Clone Wars and, yeah, Ahsoka seems like the most interesting character of the show.


Gudanov - Jul 22, 2020 9:24:58 am PDT #23860 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

I also saw the new Midway movie not too long ago and it was both better than I expected and not that great. Maybe it was intentional, but it feels more like a movie about the lead up to Midway than the battle itself. So much of what happened at Midway is skipped that it feels very incomplete.

If you give a generous pass for artistic license on a number of details (the ships are way too close together, the Japanese could only dream their anti-aircraft fire was that intense and accurate, the wrong planes are shown in a few places, etc...) it seems reasonably historical, but so much is skipped that you lose the context for the scenes that are shown. I really wished they just did a scroll with the events leading up the battle and used the time to cover more events from the battle. Still, I think it's far superior to the 70s version.


Steph L. - Jul 22, 2020 9:45:41 am PDT #23861 of 30019
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Welp, Ohio's back to mandatory masks in public starting tomorrow.


Toddson - Jul 22, 2020 9:50:08 am PDT #23862 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I found this soothing - the Vancouver Aquarium's baby otter cam.


-t - Jul 22, 2020 9:51:59 am PDT #23863 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

He's good, Shir. He says they pointed the guns right at them and he caught a rubber bullet in the chest but he's just bruised today. Scary to think about for me.

He also said there were a surprising number of people using squeaky toys as part of the call and response which I did not expect but I can kind of see how that would be useful. Saves your voice, makes noise.

Meanwhile I have been discussing with my sales team how much cookware we need to bring in to be able to support Black Friday sales. Surreal.


Cass - Jul 22, 2020 9:52:41 am PDT #23864 of 30019
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I hope your aunt is feeling better quickly, Laura.

and shot with a rubber bullet at the Portland protest last night.

One, I am appalled that military federal forces are being used to harass, threaten, arrest and assault citizens.

Two, those "less than lethal" police weapons that are blinding people and causing fractured skulls are like saying that people who are discharged from ICUs and hospitals recovered from COVID-19. Many are left with serious morbidities. Or die from a stroke.

I hope your brother is okay. I'm proud he went to the protests as well. That's what our country is supposed to protect.


chrismg - Jul 22, 2020 9:57:16 am PDT #23865 of 30019
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

meara, the whole thing reminds me of the Spider Robinson story where someone claims PCs are masculine because you "Press Enter" but Macs are feminine because you "Touch Return".*

Yikes, -t! Hope your brother is OK.

Teppy, now I'm remembering that Veronica Mars line about, "Some of us are just....Asian". Good grief.

  • Or something like that, it's been decades since I read the story. My brain's long-term retention algorithm is weird.


Shir - Jul 22, 2020 10:14:19 am PDT #23866 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

He also said there were a surprising number of people using squeaky toys as part of the call and response which I did not expect but I can kind of see how that would be useful. Saves your voice, makes noise.

Brilliant. Here I've seen vuvuzelas.

And I'm glad he's OK. It is scary.


NoiseDesign - Jul 22, 2020 10:22:12 am PDT #23867 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

At a coding level they are actually different keys that do serve slightly different functions. I deal with this when I'm programming automation systems and I have to send the information formatted in hex, I have to very specifically send a carriage return and a line feed in order to get some equipment to process commands correctly. To be fair it is a pretty fine distinction, similar to what we deal with in audio where the concept of reversed polarity and 180 degrees out of phase are treated as equivalent, when they actually are not truly the same thing from an electrical perspective. One impacts the time domain the other does not.


meara - Jul 22, 2020 10:33:10 am PDT #23868 of 30019

meara, the whole thing reminds me of the Spider Robinson story where someone claims PCs are masculine because you "Press Enter" but Macs are feminine because you "Touch Return"

Hah! I read a lot of Spider Robinson in my youth, but don't remember that one! I'm perfectly willing to believe there is or was a difference...but it's not labeled as such on my keyboards except my MacBook (where it says return, and then above that on the same key is written enter). On my external keyboard and my work PC laptop, only enter keys. So I think it's rather needlessly pedantic to claim the answer is wrong based on that. Sure, in some cases it might be used differently and have consequences, but as an answer to a crossword puzzle? ....OK, I guess if anyone is going to be pedantic its NY Times Crossword Puzzle do-ers.