Take me, sir. Take me hard.

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Jun 30, 2020 12:32:10 pm PDT #23016 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, wow. That uncertainty hold a whole lot.


Theodosia - Jun 30, 2020 12:55:45 pm PDT #23017 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I recently ran across an article by a woman who learned that yes, her mother's ob/gyn was her bio-father, unbeknownst to both of her proper parents. It seems that they had gone to a fertility doctor, whose actual 'miracle' method when the male was infertile was to switch sperm samples after some sciencey legerdemain where he "cleansed" the donors sperm and turned it potent.

Turns out she has a set of half-siblings produced by the same con. Some of those half-siblings have full siblings because their infertile parents went back to Dr. Miracle more than once...


Sophia Brooks - Jun 30, 2020 1:07:41 pm PDT #23018 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Toddson, that is A LOT. Do you need any help we can give (money/calling the company pretending to be you)?

I am sad that my ambivilance about my found family lead to the death of one of my favorite hobbies- I did geneology research on a lot of other families-- just once I found fascinating from obituaries and such, or gravestones. But now going on Ancestry.com causes me a sick guilty feeling about my other family and not telling my mother. And yet I am still sort of convinces telling my mom is a bad idea.


-t - Jun 30, 2020 1:24:38 pm PDT #23019 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Aw, Sophia. I'm sorry that's so fraught.


NoiseDesign - Jun 30, 2020 2:29:26 pm PDT #23020 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

Hey, ND! Yeah, DNA Painter and Genetic Affairs for clustering. Whenever I see an Ancestry suggestion for how a new match might be related, I kind of want to pat it and say "No, shhhh, that's sweet, I'm dealing with multiple 'family wreaths' here, go have a nap, I got this".

Most of what I learned about the DNA side of genealogy come from my friend Julie. She's the one who did almost all of the work to track down both of my birth parents. She has a fun podcast called Cutoff Genes if you want to check it out.

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msbelle - Jun 30, 2020 3:30:40 pm PDT #23021 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The last two days the dogs are sooooo barky. Bailey was worse yesterday. Miley today. I have no idea why. Only thing that gets her to quiet down is going outside and I am not inclined to leave her outside in the hottest part of the day.

I started this post at 4:30. Since then I wrapped up work, poured myself another glass of wine and took them both out int he backyard until their dinner time, then back outside and they wandered the yard while I repotted 4 plants.

They have calmed and both conked out while I baked a pie and puttered in the kitchen. I think a shower and early bed with a long got to sleep podcast.


Trudy Booth - Jun 30, 2020 5:11:56 pm PDT #23022 of 30019
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Sophia, I really think protecting your mother's feelings is something to be proud of.

Hang in there, Toddson.


Toddson - Jul 01, 2020 4:18:47 am PDT #23023 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

In regard to the fertility doctor who, um, helped infertile couples - there was a pretty serious scandal a number of years ago about a doctor who did just that. I don't remember the details, including his name, but I think SNL did a sketch about it. I'm not sure if any of the family did some extramarital reproduction, although one great-uncle did look to have a different gene pool in his background. Most of my family's drama has been in the here and now, although just about all the people who'd caused drama are either dead or completely estranged. My mother thought my father's family were a bunch of ignorant hicks and didn't want anything to do with them. She hated her half-sister and cut her off decades ago. Warm and fuzzy wasn't in my family's repertoire.

And thanks for the offer of help. Thankfully, I've been saving for 18 months for this move. I've bought some new furniture, new rugs and will be buying a bunch of new household items (Target, here I come!). So financially I am OK ... it's just the hassle and general exhaustion. I'm trying to do some unpacking in the new place ... I have some antique china that should go to a new home - it's been in boxes for, oh, 20 years or so. I'm sure someone would like to give it a good home.


Jesse - Jul 01, 2020 4:30:21 am PDT #23024 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That sounds like a truly terrible move, Toddson. I hope you can get settled in and never move again!


msbelle - Jul 01, 2020 5:01:19 am PDT #23025 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

If you aren't overwhelmed with work/life after the move, selling china by the piece on ebay or local FB marketplace can be fun and make some $$ (depending on the pattern/condition).

China pieces can also be nice to use around a house for planters, catch-all bowls...