Mom! Dead people are talking to you. Do the math!

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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


NoiseDesign - Jun 28, 2020 2:03:20 pm PDT #22929 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

I'm going to offer a slightly different perspective on the DNA to find family issues. What is "painful family history" for one group, may well be a complete lack of information for someone who was given up for adoption. In an adoption the one person who has no say in what happens, and in most cases has almost no legal rights, is the adoptee. So much of the adoption process is about protecting the rights and privacy of only one side of the adoption. In CA, as an adoptee I didn't even have the right to KNOW that I was adopted. Many of you watched that unfold in real time as I found out. I will admit that I'm definitely sensitive about this, but when I see comments about not wanting to deal with difficult family secrets, I see if from the other side, and it hurts.


sj - Jun 28, 2020 2:39:36 pm PDT #22930 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Mr. S has been watching his tablet all day. He has a lot of screen time these days, mostly because it keeps him occupied. Yeah, I know

I feel you. There is a lot of screen time built into our daily schedule.


-t - Jun 28, 2020 3:14:45 pm PDT #22931 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I decided to do the DNA test because I was curious about how well the ethnicity results would match up with family lore (not contradicted so far) and interested in potential medical insights (kind of too many to sort through but all very minor fro what I've seen) but the reason I am now super glad I did it is I turned up as the closest relative found by a third cousin who had been adopted and had virtually no information about her birth parents - my mom was able to tell her who her mother probably was, at least. Feels like I helped someone a little.


NoiseDesign - Jun 28, 2020 3:16:29 pm PDT #22932 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

You helped that person more than a little. That's the type of help that adoptees are searching for, and it's actually very rare. So many people just don't want to help, or acknowledge anything that is outside of the official family lore.


askye - Jun 28, 2020 3:21:51 pm PDT #22933 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

I tried to call mom. Got a text back saying she will call tomorrow she's been running to the bathroom all day with stomach issues . I told her to call the dr tomorrow if she doesn't feel better.


Laura - Jun 28, 2020 4:27:28 pm PDT #22934 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Mr. S has been watching his tablet all day. He has a lot of screen time these days, mostly because it keeps him occupied. Yeah, I know

Whatever helps the stress level for all parties is okay.

I hope we fins some matches for my MIL. We are very convinced we found her birth father ages ago, but he didn't respond to her letter. Now that he has surely passed she would be happy to connect with any children or grandchildren.


Cashmere - Jun 28, 2020 8:59:28 pm PDT #22935 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

My niece held a graduation party for her daughter this weekend. I know they're not social distancing.

I offered to run the kids out to our favorite ice cream stand to pick up a cone but as we drove by, none of the people standing in line were wearing masks and none of the employees in THE TINY building were.

The kids refused to stop so we went to a place with dive through where all the staff wear masks and gloves.

This shit is never going away.


NoiseDesign - Jun 28, 2020 10:46:18 pm PDT #22936 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

Yeah. I really worry that the end game on this is simply going to be lots of dead bodies.


Theodosia - Jun 29, 2020 12:47:59 am PDT #22937 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I was feeling kind of upbeat for a week or two there that we'd have some kind of 'normal' in the next couple months here -- businesses opening up more, libraries operating, all that. And even though MA is doing pretty damn well, too much of the rest of the country is going to go through the wringer again, needlessly.


Laura - Jun 29, 2020 1:39:37 am PDT #22938 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

The NY area we are in is in Stage 4 of reopening, but honestly everyone everywhere is masked. When I did go get groceries (mountains here no delivery) customers had to bag their own groceries and checkout people had gloves too, in a small very rural town. I expect that the tourist areas are likely much looser, but I haven't gone in that direction at all. I've been 3 places - Lowe's to get a toilet, because necessity, grocery shopping once, and yesterday to the 'big city' of Utica for drive thru Covid testing. Restaurants and bars are all open for indoor service, but of course that isn't happening for us, we haven't even done take out. eta: we did stop at the roadside ice cream place where my son got an ice cream, and they too were behind glass, masked and gloved. Son says his mask looks like a full diaper with his beard.