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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 16, 2020 12:59:39 pm PDT #22447 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I will try to briefly explain the situation on school placement.

For two of the high schools in San Francisco you have to apply like you're applying to college. Lowell (which is a high level academic school), and SoTA (where Matilda applied but was not accepted).

For the rest, you go into a lottery system. You pick as many high schools as you like and in the order you prefer.

However, the lottery is weighted with a number of "tiebreakers." The first being siblings. If you've got a sib going to one school you get bumped up to go to that school.

The second tiebreaker is significant as it heavily weights students who come from low-scoring districts and neighborhoods. By State law, SFUSD is not allowed to use race to determine placement but by weighting the districts they can give a leg up to poorer neighborhoods which would include majority black neighborhoods like Bayview/Hunter's Point, and new immigrant families in the Outer Mission.

Which is fine. There needs to be some remedy and opportunity to those communities.

But beyond that the assignment process has SFUSD putting the thumbs on the scale in a lot of ways which are not transparent. We know this because one parent did a Freedom of Information inquiry and found out the district had an active policy of moving kids from the Westside (more Asian) to the East and South parts of the City (poorer, black, latino).

So the fact that JZ and I both went to 4 year colleges is probably a factor and weight. They can't base assignment on income but they can make a presumptions about our income based on our college education and the neighborhood we live in. So it's frustrating knowing they're operating like this and it's not simply that Matilda's number didn't come up.

Because of COVID they have eliminated the multiple rounds of assignment that they usually do. So after Matilda found out she hadn't been accepted to SotA (on the same day JZ tested positive for COVID and we went into quarantine) we found out a week later that she hadn't gotten any of her to six choices for HS.

She was assigned to O'Connell, which is a vocational high school deep in Mission which primarily serves recent immigrant families. It's not a college prep HS and it's not in a safe neighborhood, and it's also not easily accessible by public transit.

We declined that assignment and waited for the Second Round. Then the district kept changing the process as we get deeper into the lockdown. Previously there would have been multiple rounds of assignment as kids who applied in the public system and also applied to private schools (or left the district) would accept or decline assignments and seats opened up.

Instead of having multiple rounds of assignment, now the district just did a second one. Again, Matilda did not get any of the 5 high schools we listed. Instead of assigning her to another school they simply left it blank. So she has no assignment now.

Going forward there are two options, which involve Open Enrollment and a Wait List. In July they will set up Open Enrollment and list any school that has open seats. That's first come first serve. However, since we know Matilda didn't get assigned to any of her schools we also know there won't be any open slots at the schools we'd be willing to take.

And SF's worst schools are in the lowest 5% of the State. (Whereas their best HS - like Lowell and SotA - in the top 5%. There's a massive range in the quality of the schools. And some are fairly dangerous.)

I can Wait List for one school and hope to get in as slots open up. HOWEVER, those assignments will probably also be weighted in some way that's another uphill climb for us.

Finally, there just isn't that much movement until the school year actually begins. Because if a kid has a good school assignment in a public school and also a slot at a private school, they tend to hold onto that public school slot as an asset until they have to make a choice.

I know several parents who are planning to send their kids to private school but want to wait (continued...)


DavidS - Jun 16, 2020 12:59:40 pm PDT #22448 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

( continues...) to see if the economy is going to tank or if they'll lose their jobs between now and mid-August (when school starts).

So that's where we are. My remedies for moving forward are extremely limited until school starts. There's no guarantee I'll get anything after schools starts (I know one parent who held their child out for six weeks to get a decent assignment.) And because of various invisible weighting schemes the odds are literally stacked against Matilda.


-t - Jun 16, 2020 1:15:55 pm PDT #22449 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Wow. Rough.


-t - Jun 16, 2020 1:17:02 pm PDT #22450 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I still don't understand how her school assignment is just blank. That's bizarre.


Dana - Jun 16, 2020 1:26:13 pm PDT #22451 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That is inexplicable.


DavidS - Jun 16, 2020 1:26:48 pm PDT #22452 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I still don't understand how her school assignment is just blank. That's bizarre.

They just eliminated the pretense that they had met their responsibility to assignment, and also it was probably punitive. They are actively trying to raise the numbers of middle class white kids at O'Connell, so they're saying, "Well, we GAVE you a school and you didn't like you picky little bitch, so now you get nothing."

But the reality is that O'Connell will have seats available during Open Enrollment so I could claim a seat there anyway if I wanted. But I do not.

Here are the rankings:

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This includes charter schools and some other places that are specialized that wouldn't be applicable to Matilda.

As you can see Lowell is rated 10/10, and SotA (Ruth Asawa) is 9/10.

O'Connell is 2/10. "This school is rated below average in school quality compared to other schools in California. Students here perform below average on state tests, have below average college readiness measures, and this school has below average results in how well it's serving disadvantaged students."


msbelle - Jun 16, 2020 1:32:20 pm PDT #22453 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

That whole situation sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 16, 2020 1:38:33 pm PDT #22454 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Well, David, that is ridiculous. Poor you and Matilda and JZ. I feel like Dana- how can they just leave it blank?. And, if all schools except the super duper special ones were good schools, this wouldn't be happening (duh) because it wouldn't matter so much. And as a strategy to get more wealthy people into the underperforming schools, it doesn't seem like a great stategy, because if you were wealthy, wouldn't you just pick up and go to private school?

Do they get a chance to move as a sophomore? Is there an online school she can attend for a year, or a home school group?


DavidS - Jun 16, 2020 1:40:36 pm PDT #22455 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That whole situation sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

That's what happened when I tried to place Emmett for elementary school. Basically the majority Asian neighborhoods sued saying the district was in effect trying to capture race with their "diversity index" and that was illegal. They wanted to invest in their local schools and build them up.

They were successful in that suit, and the school district had to throw out literally all of their school assignments two weeks before school started. Which is why I had no leverage with EM when she said, "Get him into a good school in SF or I'm placing him in Albany." He was not placed anywhere to start first grade in SF.


DavidS - Jun 16, 2020 1:42:37 pm PDT #22456 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And as a strategy to get more wealthy people into the underperforming schools, it doesn't seem like a great stategy, because if you were wealthy, wouldn't you just pick up and go to private school?

That's exactly what happens. Upper middle class families either move out of SF or put their kids in private school.

A huge number of Matilda's friends who have been in public school with her since kindergarten will be moving into private school for high school.