There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


juliana - Apr 10, 2020 7:10:57 pm PDT #19628 of 30019
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Oh, JZ, all my love to you.


-t - Apr 10, 2020 7:29:42 pm PDT #19629 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So much love, JZ


Kate P. - Apr 10, 2020 7:37:36 pm PDT #19630 of 30019
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Oh, JZ, I am so sorry for all you're going through right now. The way you describe the church and the service and everyone present, so lovingly and attentively -- it makes me feel like I was there too, looking out through those sea glass windows. I hope you feel the love of all those who couldn't be there with you. ♥ ♥ ♥


Cass - Apr 10, 2020 7:40:19 pm PDT #19631 of 30019
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

sharing this grief in this specific space, with all its personal weight, with him felt as intimate as anything we've experienced in the course of our marriage.

Grief is such a powerful, raw emotion.

I'm glad for the fact that your family was able include those who in many families would be excluded. My Mom attended my Dad's memorial service. Families get complicated but when those who have loved are welcome, I think it makes everyone stronger. Especially in these fraught times.

Please be gentle with yourself. It's a rough world.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 10, 2020 7:47:40 pm PDT #19632 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh JZ, all my love and sympathy to you. Funerals are so weird, something so sad yet full of love and drawing everyone (metaphorically) closer.


Theodosia - Apr 11, 2020 12:31:51 am PDT #19633 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What a beautiful place, thanks for sharing pictures and descriptions. Even as reduced as it was, the ceremony was dignified and gracious, and everything your father was due in these horrible circumstances.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2020 1:57:02 am PDT #19634 of 30019
What is even happening?

JZ, your beautiful description of the cathedral made me feel like I was there.

And the 13 of us, widely spaced into our tiny family units--Matilda and Hec clutching me and both of us clutching Matilda to support each other through the insupportable; my aunt, who just buried her husband and is now burying her baby brother, and her daughter; another highly problematic cousin and his spouse, who shrugged off all their issues when this came crashing in; my father's partner, weeping by herself because none of us were allowed to touch her and the only person by whose side she could have safely been was in that stainless steel box; my middle brother, all alone at the end of our pew; another cousin to our left, and his ex-wife, whom my dad had always treated like family no matter what her legal status, on the right. The office manager who thought of him as a second father. The old friend from decades back. And no one else in all the world.

This is the extravagant cruelty of it all. The separation is where this disease unnecessarily runs up the score. I'm grateful, at least, that you, Matilda, and Hec could cling together.


Shir - Apr 11, 2020 2:06:04 am PDT #19635 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, JZ. My heart goes out to you, to David, Matilda, and the rest of the family. {{}}


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 11, 2020 2:45:00 am PDT #19636 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hey gang, am I out of line in thinking that if someone is still referring to "my room" and "my living room" with regard to a significant other who moved in with them weeks ago, it's an indication they weren't ready to live together?


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2020 3:07:47 am PDT #19637 of 30019
What is even happening?

You're at least not wrong to question it, Matt. Habits are hard to break, though. How long did the someone live there without the s.o.? Did the someone live on their own for long before the s.o. moved in?