You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Apr 07, 2020 4:34:57 am PDT #19423 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm sorry, JZ. And David and Matilda.


Trudy Booth - Apr 07, 2020 4:56:39 am PDT #19424 of 30019
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And now Matilda is sobbing and raging that we didn't share every detail with her all along, and I can hear her crying in her room but she doesn't want either of us anywhere near her. I'm gutted all over again.

I suspect there is no course of action you could have taken that would not leave her sobbing and raging at this time and that she's scrambling frantically for some shred of some sense control in this tsunami of chaos. Her heart is at the gates of hell and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.

It will take a while to get past "If I had only KNOWN I could have done SOMETHING" because she's a bright and effective girl who almost always CAN do something. She can't be with him she couldn't be with you, and she's so so isolated right now... isolating herself just a little bit more is the only change she can affect.

The good news is that she is safe and loved enough (and knows that she's safe and loved enough) to lose her shit utterly. She knows that when she comes back you'll be there. So many people never have that. It's what you are giving her right now and it's invaluable.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 07, 2020 5:39:45 am PDT #19425 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm so sorry, JZ. It is a blessing, amidst the sadness, that you could be there with your dad for those last moments and make sure his final awareness was of the love of his family. I think that has to be a huge comfort to the person passing, and I know firsthand it's a huge comfort to those left behind.


JZ - Apr 07, 2020 6:34:12 am PDT #19426 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

He's still here--still dwindling and not conscious and not in any discomfort, but not yet stepping through that door in the redwoods. Which is a whole different kind of pain for the rest of us. I don't even know what to feel anymore, and there is literally nothing we can do, just wait.


Sophia Brooks - Apr 07, 2020 6:39:04 am PDT #19427 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am so sorry, JZ and family. That sounds very painful, but I am glad you were able to see him and hold his hand and make eye contact.


Laura - Apr 07, 2020 6:40:04 am PDT #19428 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Waiting is torture. I'm so sorry. My wacky notion on that part of it is he doesn't think one of his loved ones is ready yet. {{all of you}}


JZ - Apr 07, 2020 6:46:33 am PDT #19429 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

he doesn't think one of his loved ones is ready yet

My youngest brother is very much not. Of course, he's also the one who absolutely CANNOT be here under any circumstances because of the multiple myeloma (nor would our dad want him to be; if he were still speaking, he'd be absolutely saying Stay the fuck home, and probably adding fucks for emphasis [which he does not habitually do around any of us kids, but if he were conscious and speaking he would make an exception for this]).


Laura - Apr 07, 2020 7:22:39 am PDT #19430 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I can only imagine how difficult it is for your brother, and so many others, who can't be with loved ones. It sucks so much. I was the only child of 4 with my dad when he passed. It was random as we all took turns staying with him. I figured he wanted it that way. I hope your brother understands how important it is for him to stay safe with his fragile immunity. Just when we need to hug it isn't an option. Jacqueline and yours, you are due a whole lot of hugs.


-t - Apr 07, 2020 8:25:44 am PDT #19431 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

{{{JZ}}}

I'm just gonna sit here next to you not saying anything. Maybe patting you on the arm now and then. Hope that's ok.


msbelle - Apr 07, 2020 8:39:39 am PDT #19432 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

watching Gov update. over 200 Baltimore City Police Officers on quarantine. So over 6% of the officers.