Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Mar 02, 2020 1:01:48 pm PST #16994 of 30019
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm so sorry, Cashmere.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 02, 2020 1:10:39 pm PST #16995 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh Cashmere. I am so sorry. Much ~ma to you.


Laura - Mar 02, 2020 2:25:39 pm PST #16996 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Wow, Chris Matthews just quit on air.


aurelia - Mar 02, 2020 2:29:21 pm PST #16997 of 30019
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh, Cashmere. That's a lot. Much ~ma to you and yours.


Pix - Mar 02, 2020 3:23:43 pm PST #16998 of 30019
The status is NOT quo.

Cashmere, I'm so sorry. That's such a stressful situation.


Cashmere - Mar 02, 2020 3:39:55 pm PST #16999 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

Thanks for the ma. Update: Dad has a few broken ribs, lots of cuts and bruises and a sprained foot. His CT scan was clear, so he doesn't have a concussion. He's spending another night in hospital and my sister will stay with him for a few days until I can get there this weekend.

My brother refuses to let us see him, won't talk to us or release his medical condition. But he called my sister tonight and asked if she would come pick him up if they let him out. She said no.

We not have to navigate the legal situation--whether they plan on filing charges against my brother or my dad, and whether they can catch Joe before he leaves the hospital and arrest him.

We also need an order of protection to keep my brother away from Dad and the house altogether.

This is a goddamn nightmare but, for all that, it could have been a lot worse.

I missed Matthews' on-air flounce.


Laura - Mar 02, 2020 4:35:14 pm PST #17000 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Cashmere, my heart breaks for you and yours. Healing thoughts all round.

The politics and MSNBC drama is interesting and distracting.


Amy - Mar 02, 2020 4:58:33 pm PST #17001 of 30019
Because books.

Cash, who would be filing charges against your dad?


Cashmere - Mar 02, 2020 5:23:18 pm PST #17002 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

It would depend on the DA's office. The officers on the scene definitely described it as "clear cut self-defense." And Indiana is a conservative state when it comes to guns. I don't think they will but you just never know.

It all sucks. If we could have gotten Joe better treatment, we would be in this position and now that he has done this, we can I get him treatment.


Laura - Mar 02, 2020 6:32:09 pm PST #17003 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I do hope so, Cashmere. Our mental health systems are so deficient. He is lucky to have loving people fighting to help him. So many have no one to advocate for them.