Lorne: My little prince. Oh…what did they do to you? Angel: Nina…tried to…eat me. Lorne: Oh, you're--medic! You're gonna make it Angel. Just don't stop fighting. Doctor! Is there a Gepetto in the house?

'Smile Time'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jan 23, 2020 12:27:53 pm PST #15765 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am feeling very "msbelle dealing with shit and gtd" today

Adulting like a Boss!


Jessica - Jan 23, 2020 12:33:18 pm PST #15766 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Before some stupid travel ban happens

It's already in place, mostly. The "people visiting people" reason for going was taken away in I think 2017 or 2018? Nowadays most individuals can get away with checking "support for the Cuban people" but I think "family" is also a viable option.

Also, American debit and credit cards don't work there so you need to travel with enough cash for your entire trip.


sj - Jan 23, 2020 1:31:55 pm PST #15767 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

ltc was up last night in bed "reading" loudly until 9:30. She better go right to sleep tonight both because she's exhausted and because it's Picard night.


Rick - Jan 23, 2020 1:33:08 pm PST #15768 of 30019

Yeah, that corner is legendary as a danger spot for downtown Seattle. And it's in a heavy pedestrian traffic area AND a few blocks away from one of the major bus stop hubs.

Years ago when I worked at Harborview Hospital I had to walk through downtown and that area at the end of my my shift to catch a bus north. There were always lots of unsavory folks around--I think that was the MacDonalds that played obnoxious, repetitive music in their parking lot in the hopes of keeping people from congregating there--and when it was late I sometimes walked in the street just to give myself a little distance from the unruly groups on the sidewalk. After a long day of dealing with disordered people it was just too much.

The morning after one of those walks I went out to the waiting room of the Harborview Mental Health Center to retrieve a patient, and a different patient stood up and started screaming and gesticulating to everyone in the room: "That doctor is crazier than we are! He walks down the middle of the street!"

He had a point.


Susan W. - Jan 23, 2020 3:32:08 pm PST #15769 of 30019
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

See, there are places I'd expect to be worse or as bad with similar situations, but NONE OF THEM have been such a lasting clusterfuck as the corner with that McDonald's.

It's so weird because it's so close to so many perfectly nice places to shop, eat, and hang out, and yet so persistently cursed.

Though speaking of Seattle crime, my office on the outskirts of the UW campus has been on lockdown twice in the past two weeks because of armed robberies in the immediate neighborhood...which is two times more than had ever happened before in the four years since we moved to that location.


NoiseDesign - Jan 23, 2020 4:26:41 pm PST #15770 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

Wow, I have a suspicion I know the McDonalds and the corner you are talking about and this is from experiences in Seattle in the 90s.


P.M. Marc - Jan 23, 2020 6:52:52 pm PST #15771 of 30019
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

There were always lots of unsavory folks around--I think that was the MacDonalds that played obnoxious, repetitive music in their parking lot in the hopes of keeping people from congregating there--and when it was late I sometimes walked in the street just to give myself a little distance from the unruly groups on the sidewalk.

I think that's the other McDonald's that was, I think, seven or eight blocks away? Maybe ten? Closer to the monorail.

This one's 3rd and Pike. No parking lot. Bad, bad fucking corner.


amyparker - Jan 23, 2020 7:22:06 pm PST #15772 of 30019
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

Nope, nowhere near, but I did casually chat with Ken to make sure he hadn't gone into town on his day off.


Calli - Jan 24, 2020 4:23:36 am PST #15773 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Steph, I'll chime in with everyone saying that caretaking is exhausting. It's too late now, I'm sure. But the next time you're that tired, could you get a friend to drive you or take a Lyft/Uber? Local friends often want to be helpful, but they don't know how without explicit suggestions. Of course, that's one more thing to corral when you're already tired. But it might be marginally less tiring than hiking all around a medical complex.


Steph L. - Jan 24, 2020 7:17:51 am PST #15774 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I hate it, I hate it, I hate it so much. (Caretaking.) Today SUCKS.