I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.

Giles ,'Beneath You'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 23, 2019 3:50:39 pm PST #14947 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Msbelle, that is good advice. I am, frankly, a terrible liar, so it will come out, at least to Maria. But if I am strong in my conviction it is the right thing to do, she will back me up. My mother, not so mucc.


aurelia - Dec 23, 2019 3:54:50 pm PST #14948 of 30019
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

So the gifts I ordered for my brother and SIL had a Dec 17-23 delivery window when I placed the order. I just checked the tracking and now it's expected to be the 26th. I really don't want to shop tomorrow.


msbelle - Dec 23, 2019 4:15:23 pm PST #14949 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

askye, I am sorry it is so hard. I am the only one who cares about doing things at holidays anymore and the more I push to do them the angrier I become when no one else wants to. This year I really tried to stop and I did what I wanted just for me and it has been a bit better.

Eventually I hope to start to to do things that I like with friends and my family time will be low-key nothing for holidays.

It sucks, but your enjoyment of things requires other people participating, then you have to find like-minded people or develop new ways of doing those things just for yourself.


msbelle - Dec 23, 2019 4:17:17 pm PST #14950 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

aurelia, can you wrap a picture of the gift and let them know they will be in next day? Surely adults would understand that.


-t - Dec 23, 2019 4:28:40 pm PST #14951 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Aw, I'm sorry, aurelia. FedEx and UPS have been overwhelmed, I know, it's a bummer you're getting hit with the lateness. I second msbelle's picture idea. Two turtle doves and whatever is on the way for Boxing Day!

I'm sorry, askye.

I also second msbelle's just don't tell them suggestion. Any guilt you feel is not righteous guilt.


Steph L. - Dec 23, 2019 4:29:26 pm PST #14952 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Pumpkin pies and cornbread are baked and cooling, dishes are done, iPad is grabbing some of my iPhone's data from iCloud, and I just did my end-of-year giving (a food pantry in my neighborhood, a homeless shelter, SPCA, Southern Poverty Law Center, and Planned Parenthood). (I still intend to kick $$ in for the Buffista giving thing, too.)

Presents are wrapped and in separate Trader Joe's bags by family (my Dad, my mom/stepdad, my bro/SiL, Tim's family), my clothes are clean and unwrinkled, and I can sleep in until 8 tomorrow morning. I think I am ready for a full day of my family tomorrow and a full day of Tim's family on Christmas. And then Thursday I am not doing a damn thing except submitting my December invoice to the AMA and maybe dragging my ass out to see Jumanji or Star Wars.


askye - Dec 23, 2019 4:37:39 pm PST #14953 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

I think I'm really really missing my family right now. They are all at the beachm I haven't seen my dad since ok since we went down to the beach in October but he hasn't visited up here in I don't remember when.... spring?

And they are going to see my grandma who is 99 and this could be her last Chris's and E is there.

It didn't feel this bad when I was in Front or at least I don't remember it being this bad but they were so far away and they are only 7 hours away right now.

Plus I don't have any traditions built withatthew so I'm floundering.

Although we were also invited to a family friends home for a meal so it looks like there will be Christmas merriment of some kind


msbelle - Dec 23, 2019 4:47:47 pm PST #14954 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ack - the giving thing! shit - must go get info and post!

Thanks Steph.


lisah - Dec 23, 2019 5:50:08 pm PST #14955 of 30019
Punishingly Intricate

Eventually I hope to start to to do things that I like with friends and my family time will be low-key nothing for holiday
Will be great for you to be here in December next year. We are a festive people!


sj - Dec 23, 2019 5:55:23 pm PST #14956 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Gifts are all wrapped. Bows and a couple gift baskets will be assembled tomorrow. I let go of the idea of baking or cooking anything this year. I ordered pies from a fantastic bakery and hummus etc from a great Mediterranean market and will bring those and wind to the houses we're going to. Hopefully ltc will love everything.