I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Dec 03, 2019 3:35:46 pm PST #14293 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Mac wanting to do it on his own is a good thing -- that's him taking responsibility, and overall is a step forward. This will allow you the chance to be gracious when he inevitably flounders a little and asks for help.

Exactly this.


msbelle - Dec 03, 2019 3:43:31 pm PST #14294 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am not upset about him wanting to do it on his own (although that generally means there will be no plan or coordination), but that he is being rude about it.

I guess I just do not accommodate when he contacts me last minute needing help or access. I've got too many plates spinning of my own.

If he got one friend to help we literally could have had his entire apartment moved tonight.


lisah - Dec 03, 2019 4:08:48 pm PST #14295 of 30019
Punishingly Intricate

I think it will be nice for you to be in Baltimore with sara and Lisa around and such a cute house.

It will be nice for us, too! You've a lot going on, msbelle, and even the good stuff can be stressful.


msbelle - Dec 03, 2019 4:15:00 pm PST #14296 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

tonight's packing is one tv (done), all my crystal (done), and enough of the lesser used glass items in my cabinets to fill a box (next up).

Everyday a little packing, everyday identifying something else I do not need to take - 2 vases and some dishes onto the get rid of pile today.


msbelle - Dec 03, 2019 5:03:57 pm PST #14297 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

roll of tape ran out just as I finished up the box. it's a sign to stop for the night. 2 full boxes into the garage. a small bag to go to the office tomorrow and a small stack of new stuff to get rid of. Now a load of laundry in.

My hot packing tip for the night is that bubble padded envelopes make great wrappers for crystal stemware - one padded envelope per stem then wrap with a sheet of newspaper and it will all stay in place.

The kitchen stuff is not nearly as fast as books or art, but having an empty drawer and shelf area is visible progress.


Kat - Dec 03, 2019 5:40:34 pm PST #14298 of 30019
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

msbelle, you have a lot going. I'm sending you all the jobma.

Can count on not waking to a curly black sheeppoodle staring at me in the dark,

For now. We could send her to you.


JZ - Dec 03, 2019 6:57:20 pm PST #14299 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm pretty gutted about Kamala (I genuinely feel she was one of the most qualified, and the best positioned for a general election battle, and the most aligned with my post-2016 vow to listen to Black women and vote like and with Black women), and today has felt like a minor but awful echo of the day after election day 2016. I'm consoling myself with guinea pigs and gin. I suppose tomorrow I'll pull myself together and get back to fighting to reclaim the Senate, but right this minute everything feels awful and hopeless.

Honestly, one of the things making me feel a little buoyant is coming back to b.org and finding out that Mac got the apartment and contemplating msbelle in Baltimore. Those are deeply good things to meditate upon.


Theodosia - Dec 04, 2019 1:09:42 am PST #14300 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

All the hugs, JZ.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 04, 2019 3:03:55 am PST #14301 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I was reading a post about things that make you tear up, and then I came here and read JZs post and teared up

I remember when Mac was just an idea. And it is amazing that we all found each other and have known each other so long. And we have marriages and babies and deaths and bad times and good times, and have a place to come back to where we feel safe and understood. And all because of a tv show and Salon, but also because we persisted in staying together. It is very special.


Toddson - Dec 04, 2019 3:59:17 am PST #14302 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I saw this from Steph:

As best as I can remember, after my great-uncle came home after WWII, this friend was all "So, you were a medic? Is it true about soldiers fucking corpses?" And yet it still had nothing to do with how he met my great-aunt. Good Lord.

And it occurred to me - at the time, virtually all the corpses would be men ... is it necrophilic homosexual duck time (again)?