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A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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billytea - Jul 06, 2017 3:08:43 pm PDT #632 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I believe Sunday nights on PBS in the 70s and 80s were her drug.

For me it was every night from Monday to Thursday, when the ABC showed an episode of Doctor Who virtually every week of my childhood. Mostly the Third and Fourth Doctors. Truly it was a Golden Age.

There were a total of 158 adventures in the Classic Series. 140 are available on DVD, the others lost to the BBC's archiving policy (namely, "don't"). I own precisely 100 of them, which I use to drive Biyi spare by watching at least an episode or two most nights. I've just finished rewatching The Tenth Planet, in honour of the current season's finale.


beekaytee - Jul 06, 2017 3:15:15 pm PDT #633 of 2020
Compassionately intolerant

It's probably the least popular era of Doctor Who.

I was just having this conversation the other day!

I can't quite decide, of the many things that were awful about it, which is the most-bad element of C. Baker's tenure.

In the end, I just don't much like the actor, which I know isn't fair, but sheesh. He was/is a job of work.

I can only take Sylvester McCoy in small doses (I have a low slapstick threshold), but really quite admire all the other Doctors' secret identities.


beekaytee - Jul 06, 2017 3:16:43 pm PDT #634 of 2020
Compassionately intolerant

There were a total of 158 adventures in the Classic Series. 140 are available on DVD, the others lost to the BBC's archiving policy (namely, "don't"). I own precisely 100 of them, which I use to drive Biyi spare by watching at least an episode or two most nights. I've just finished rewatching The Tenth Planet, in honour of the current season's finale.

I bow to your fan-aticism, billytea!


Jon B. - Jul 06, 2017 4:45:27 pm PDT #635 of 2020
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That other doctor was Colin Baker?

If you mean the other Doctor that appeared at the end of this season's finale, that was David Bradley (Game of Thrones, Harry Potter movies) playing the first doctor, William Hartnell.


billytea - Jul 06, 2017 5:11:35 pm PDT #636 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

If you mean the other Doctor that appeared at the end of this season's finale, that was David Bradley (Game of Thrones, Harry Potter movies) playing the first doctor, William Hartnell.

David Bradley also played William Hartnell in the 2013 drama, An Adventure in Space and Time (about the creation of Doctor Who and Hartnell's tenure as the Doctor). With his appearance in "The Doctor Falls", he's now the third actor to play the First Doctor. Aside from Hartnell, Richard Hurndall played the First Doctor in the 20th Anniversary special, "The Five Doctors".


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 06, 2017 5:16:36 pm PDT #637 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So well that apparently Hartnell's co-star, Carole Ann Ford, found the resemblance eerie.


Jessica - Jul 06, 2017 5:58:41 pm PDT #638 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

the others lost to the BBC's archiving policy (namely, "don't")

The version of the story I heard when I worked there was the BBC let the lease expire on the building where they were storing the original tapes, and they were subsequently bulldozed by the new owners. (Another version had the building abandoned and subsequently sinking into a swamp, which is equally plausible.)

I'm wondering if they will cast any other First Doctor era lookalikes for the Christmas special. (That photo of Susan on Twelve's desk in the season premiere was some pretty on the nose foreshadowing.)


billytea - Jul 06, 2017 6:54:24 pm PDT #639 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The version of the story I heard when I worked there was the BBC let the lease expire on the building where they were storing the original tapes, and they were subsequently bulldozed by the new owners. (Another version had the building abandoned and subsequently sinking into a swamp, which is equally plausible.)

I like that story, especially the swamp version ("Kroll! Kroll! Kroll!"); however, as I understand it, the deletion of old Doctor Who adventures (and other shows, which generally had it worse) was an ongoing process rather than a one-off event. ("The Highlanders" was wiped in 1967, only months after it aired; "Fury from the Deep" was the last '60s serial to go, getting the chop in 1974.) The Beeb finally changed its archiving policy in 1978 (namely, "do").

I'm wondering if they will cast any other First Doctor era lookalikes for the Christmas special. (That photo of Susan on Twelve's desk in the season premiere was some pretty on the nose foreshadowing.)

I'm starting to develop a notion that this is indirect foreshadowing for the First Doctor. My reasoning: the picture of Susan appearaed alongside a picture of River Song, whose story of course came to an end in the Christmas special, "The Husbands of River Song". The Twelfth Doctor, this season, is more or less in a position of still grieving her loss. Meanwhile, Susan's absence relates most directly to the First Doctor. I can see them in the Christmas special coming to terms both with their impending regenerations and the people they've lost on the way.

If that's so, then it would make sense for neither River nor Susan to appear in person, the emotional arc being driven by their absence. (Alternatively, the First Doctor may wind up asking the Twelfth Doctor finally to fulfil his promise to come back to Susan. That could work. It might start to push him into Tenth Doctor Farewell Tour territory, though.)


Connie Neil - Jul 06, 2017 7:29:21 pm PDT #640 of 2020
brillig

the building abandoned and subsequently sinking into a swamp

The second archive building caught fire, fell over, then sank into a swamp.

But the third archive building stayed up!


Calli - Jul 07, 2017 1:52:26 am PDT #641 of 2020
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The second archive building caught fire, fell over, then sank into a swamp.

But the third archive building stayed up!

Hee! But I don't want to be an archivist, father. I want to SING! *music swells*